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fra-zzr
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Can anyone explain? Reply with quote

Was in St.Andrews ealier today, hundred of bikes out but this one caught me eye:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3121/3582690750_e8dbce165d_o.jpg

now why would they have L's up on a bike clearly over 125cc?
are they trying to pas it off as a 125?
Is this someone part way through a DAS with their own bike?
is it legal?
or.. mabey they have just passed and arent confident, biking alternative to P-plates?

ow well, let me know if you do Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 19:50 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are taking your DAS there and then you need to display 'L' Plates, but seeing as he is at what seems to be a meet/cafe kind of thing I think that's out the window.

You never know, those beefy barrels may contain a tiny tiny cylinder! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must be a mick take, after all the smallest harleys have huge engines!
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mebbe they're a learner Harley rider ?
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little joke that you fell for I reckon. Wonder if the owner knows it's there? Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was one on the back too Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it have a Jersey or Guensey number plate?

Guensey plates are a number 4 or 5 digits long with a black plate, and Jersey are Yellow starting with J then 4 or 5 numbers.

They can ride any sized bike on L plates over there.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its just a joke. I was going to fit some on my Cbr 600 when i was told you could get points for displaying L-plates with a full licence.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalforever wrote:
It must be a mick take, after all the smallest harleys have huge engines!

There are a few different harleys with 125cc engines.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

modern ones?

I know there are the old crossers but i dont think there are any recent ones?
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

arbit3r wrote:
I think its just a joke. I was going to fit some on my Cbr 600 when i was told you could get points for displaying L-plates with a full licence.


if thats true how do driving instructors legally drive around in sign written cars with L plates everywhere? im not saying your wrong, there cant be one rule for cars and another for bike... surely? having said that, it is england so anythings possible Wink
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not being up to speed on latest learner laws, I'm not sure about it - but the 883 doesn't make more than 33bhp so not even any need for a restrictor kit.
Does that mean a mature access rider could use it on L plates? Question
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
but the 883 doesn't make more than 33bhp so not even any need for a restrictor kit.


Used bike guide says 55bhp for the 883.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may be right, I'm not a harley expert!
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they happen to have a friend who is a bike instructor so they went for a ride. I'm pretty sure you are aloud to ride anything on L-plates as long as you are with a qualified instructor and you are over 21.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I suspect the suggestion that it was a joke is right.

No reason you couldn't use such a bike as a learner while doing DAS, but only while accompanied by a qualified instructor, etc.

Think there is a specific exemption for driving instructors for leaving L plates in place.

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PostPosted: 18:29 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:

Think there is a specific exemption for driving instructors for leaving L plates in place.


For the fixed things on their roof, yes.
Always amusing seeing someone ALONE in a car with L's and not an instructor car, my mum used to do it when my brother was learning and never got pulled for it.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's legal if their riding with an instructor & 21+
I was thinking awhile ago of doing Direct Access without doing an intensive course but it was something like an extra £10 per hour/lesson to borrow a bike. So owning the bike could make sense if their in need of alot of lessons or have no way of getting to the instructors place in order to borrow one, allowing the instructor to come to them to start the lesson.

Also a good chance it's a joke, surely no harm done in the eyes of the law aslong as its stationary. Cool
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PostPosted: 02:35 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a full licence and my cousin has a cbt. We are riding the same bike.
Do I have to remove L plates every single day?
It means cousin has to mount them every single day?
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
doggone wrote:
but the 883 doesn't make more than 33bhp so not even any need for a restrictor kit.


Used bike guide says 55bhp for the 883.


Haha thats rediculous, my dads Triumph Trophy apparantly make 45 (from new) The Harley has 233cc and 40 odd years on the Trophy.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

Haha thats rediculous, my dads Triumph Trophy apparantly make 45 (from new) The Harley has 233cc and 40 odd years on the Trophy.


Not really rediculous, remember not all bikes are tuned up for power on purpose - my 500's make <33bhp standard.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Haha thats rediculous, my dads Triumph Trophy apparantly make 45 (from new) The Harley has 233cc and 40 odd years on the Trophy.


H-D got out of the horsepower race in about 1952. Now they can just make the engines on what feel right for them and sell them.

I want a Harley.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harley engines are more about torque, and the power is there at low revs.
They are a different experience but just as much fun and capable in their own way.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
If you are taking your DAS there and then you need to display 'L' Plates, but seeing as he is at what seems to be a meet/cafe kind of thing I think that's out the window.


I have seen DAS lessons that break for lunch at Squires on occasion. Wink
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