The facists have won a seat in Europe.

kawakid · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Karma :

I honestly can't believe this.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8088133.stm

Fair enough if your pissed off with Labour/Tory/Lib dems then vote Green, UKIP etc. But BNP?

I'm fairly to the right in my outlook & politics, but I would rather vote labour than the BNP.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

That ought to put the cat amongst the pigeons rather effectively.

I see it as a good thing to be honest. They aren't going to wield any real power with one, possibly two seats and it ought to focus the attention of the other parties. A sizeable portion of the electorate obviously feel issues of immigration and EU labour regulations are not being addressed to their satisfaction.

It's essentially a political kick up the arse. I'd say the majority of the people who voted BNP do not agree with their position and do not actually want them to be in power.

Give the electorate more credit. It was a tactical vote for a highly polarised party to force action on these issues. If the other parties take the matter in hand and are seen to do something about it, the BNP vote will evaporate at the next election.
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We are all used to being fucked over by Labour and the Tories.....and we know exactly how they will fuck us over.

Someone else might fuck us over in a different way...maybe even a slightly better way.

No point in kidding ourselves any of them will help us.

If BNP, UKIP etc start gaining seats, it can only send the message the big 2 that they need to sort themselves out, the general public is waking up to their bullshit, and if they don't evolve and atleast be seen to help the public they won't survive!

When was the last time you actually saw Gordon making a public speech? I can't even remember the last time I did!
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The Shaggy D.A. · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Karma :

Nice to know my vote counted for something.
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iooi · Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma :

All part of the joy of PR.

The vast majority of the public voted with their feet at home..... Parties like the BNP get their supporters out and vote. So with PR even though there are not many of then, it is enough to get seats via the PR system... Just never enough for the FPTP system we have in the rest of the elections.
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supZ · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Karma :

aye, BNP had a much wider audience with everyones slating of them which just made it easier for people to vote.

most people i spoke to who were going on about viting BNP didnt even know about UKIP. all these muppets moaning about them managed to do was give them huge coverage and great PR.

falsified leafets or not everyone knew their name.

hardly surprises me at all really.

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I did hear one Labour politician on radio 4 essentially say that the people who voted for the BNP must be stupid.

So, a politician, sitting on national radio tells 943,598 people they are stupid. Thats them told then, they're bound to vote labour next time. Rolling Eyes

What annoys me is that they (Labour) are discounting the UKIP vote as a protest against the expenses debacle. UKIP did not campaign on this point, they campaigned on coming out of the EU. 2.6 million people essentially voted to come out and it is being spun as a protest vote.
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The facists have won a seat in Europe.

I didn't know that the Socialist Workers Party had fought this election. Confused

AngelGrinder · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Karma :

I disagree anabella, I think the more Labour keep talking like they have in the above posts, the more they are alienating the general public. As I have said, when was the last time you acutally saw Gordon Brown making a publc speech? When he does he shows all the carisma of a dead newt.

They have lost touch with the public, that's why no-one is voting for them, all the promises of change have proven to be lies. People see the outside parties as a change, I welcome all these parties to become more equal, as competition can only make things better?

Just another question, if this is a democracy, why can't we, the people, vote to change the government, why can Labour stay in power, when clearly very few people want them?
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It doesn't matter who you vote for because at the end of the day they're always going to shaft someone. Voting is just handing them the stick to beat you with.
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UrbanRacer · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Karma :

wee nicky gets pelted with eggs Laughing

and chased the fuck away from his press conference.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8091605.stm

I hope someone shoots the bastard

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Anyone else find it funny that a group calling itself "Unite Against Fascism" wants to ban the BNP because they don't agree with their views?

cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

That's my point Ste. It never ceases to amaze me that idiots post shit like that on an internet forum without understanding just what it is they are talking about. I mean, I'm no scholar but like yourself, I understand that suppressing someones views is an act of fascism.

Top Tip for fukwits, do a Google search "define fascism" before making a prick of yourself.

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