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Raffles
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Good result for Gerrard. Reply with quote

Steven Gerrard was today cleared of all charges at Liverpool Crown Court. What a surprise that must have been for the muppets who work for the Crown Prosecution Service. Personally I'm very pleased he was aquitted and never for one moment doubted what the outcome would be.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201641/Steven-Gerrard-cleared-attacking-DJ-bar-brawl.html;jsessionid=8DD835E426BEC9E528F24404E6225F87
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:32 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't doubt the outcome, doesn't mean it was right.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you don't give a toss about footballers and whether or not they are above the law, the upshot is that self defence is still a valid reason to hit someone. That is a comforting thought in the safety culture nanny state UK.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Even if you don't give a toss about footballers and whether or not they are above the law, the upshot is that self defence is still a valid reason to hit someone. That is a comforting thought in the safety culture nanny state UK.


From the video it was clear the bar-guy was hit first, by Gerrard's coward mate. No doubt the guy reacting to that was perceived as being about to attack Gerrard. Yeah, right. Pair of scumbag thugs. The jury no doubt made up of a bunch of football-fawning morons.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone read the readers comments... Daily Mail readers are fucking hyped up Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:24 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:

From the video it was clear the bar-guy was hit first, by Gerrard's coward mate. No doubt the guy reacting to that was perceived as being about to attack Gerrard. Yeah, right. Pair of scumbag thugs. The jury no doubt made up of a bunch of football-fawning morons.


Quite agree.

The victim was clearly reeling from being elbowed in the face by Gerrad's mate - he posed no threat to anyone, let alone the super-fit footballer who pummelled him while he was helpless.

Typical rich-boy coward with an over-inflated opinion of his own worth.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
hes with five mates , like he was gona get hurt, he admits hes drunk and to hitting him, and theres cctv prooving it, all his mates get done to lessen the blame on him,



To be fair, most of the above would be irrelevant to a claim of self-defence, as if he were pissed (or even if not) you wouldn't necessarily be able to conduct a reasoned threat assessment in the heat of the moment.

If I were to walk out of my bedroom now, surprise a junkie burglar, and in my shock and alarm take him to pieces - I certainly wouldn't want people criticising me because in hindsight I probably wasn't in physical danger.

That said - he and his friends were the aggressors, and a man bent over after being elbowed in the chops is hardly an imminent threat to a fit sportsman.

The media seems to be fairly quiet on the fact that 5 of Gerrad's party were found guilty of affray - and yet his friends/legal team are still trying to put about the story that he's a quiet, private man.

The fact that he went over to confront the victim a second time proves that this is a lie.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 24 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In theory, the law applies to everyone, but break the law, and you get a much better lawyer if you have money.

So the result is that rich people get away with things that those without good lawyers would get convicted for.

Having said that, it's a storm in a tea cup as even joe public would just get community service for a first offence.

However, Gerard will now think twice about hitting folk, which is probably a good thing.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys actually give a fuck?
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kind of stuff happens all the time and nothing happens over it.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
Do you guys actually give a fuck?


A bloke that millions of people respect and/or idolise has shown himself to be an arrogant, bullying coward. That's worthy of note, if only to shut up the next prick that talks about footballers as heroes.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an absolute cunt Gerrard is. Should be banned from football and the England team.

Cunt.
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Football refered to as Sport?

"Sportsmanship is conformance to the rules, spirit, and etiquette of sport. More grandly, it may be considered the ethos of sport. It is interesting that the motivation for sport is often an elusive element. Sportsmanship expresses an aspiration or ethos that the activity will be enjoyed for its own sake, with proper consideration for fairness, ethics, respect, and a sense of fellowship with one's competitors. Being a "good sport" involves being a "good winner" as well as being a "good loser"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship

Summat don't add up there....

Gerrard should be behind bars like the bikers who are banged up for speeding. "As an example to others".... Mad
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ban football, ban it from all news paper, all tv and all public places.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:


That said - he and his friends were the aggressors, and a man bent over after being elbowed in the chops is hardly an imminent threat to a fit sportsman.



Thinking Hmm..........Just a few weeks ago you seemed to be in favour of gangs of thugs beating defenceless people as they lay on the ground https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=177931 .
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost witty, but not quite. Good effort. Certainly not an accurate comparison, as you are well aware.

Anyway, if you have to resort to such methods as trying to mire this thread in yet another I LOVE THE POLICE!/I HATE TEH PIGGSZ! debate than I know you know the truth - Gerrad is a coward and a braggart.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like all Premier League footballers, he considers himself above the law. The law is only for the little people who buy the season tickets and the shirts with his name on.
Arrogant rotten little cunt. When is someone going to have the balls to do to a footballer what those guys did to Liam Gallagher, that shut him up for a considerable while.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened with liam Gallagher? Didn't hear about that.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 25 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

He got a bit lippy in bar in Germany ( i think) a few years back. Two blokes gave him a smack and knocked a couple of teeth out. Very Happy
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