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PostPosted: 10:42 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Problems with chicken strips Reply with quote

Was doing a bit of roundabout surfing on the way to work this morning. I'm still a relatively new rider but I'm gaining confidence, and slowly but steadily am getting my knee lower and lower. Right now I have chicken strips about 2cm wide on my front tyre. The bike was bought from new so these untouched parts are still slippery - which I found out this morning when the front end slipped out from under me and I just about lowsided. I managed to keep control (just), but it really put the wind up me.

It seems to be a catch-22 situation; I can't lean over hard until the slipperly edges of the tyre are scrubbed off, but I can't get rid of these chicken strips without leaning over.

Is there any way to remove these slippery edges without riding? Perhaps a wire brush could remove the top layer?
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use a wire brush lol, sandpaper would be fine. I had the same issue yesterday, you may have pushed a little too far, too soon.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think those strips are telling you that you have gone far enough.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

alot of the time you are never going to reach the edge of the front tyre without it lowsiding. How is the rear looking?
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are progressive with how far you lean each time there shouldn't be a problem as the road will be half on the chicken strip, half off so still have grip.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive never had that happen.
i would blame the road surface and poor obs for the slip, not the tyres.

im pretty sure brand new tyres are still grippy enough to roundabout surf right to the edge on.

edit: just realised you meant front. rear is the important one
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is it didn't feel like I was leaning over that much ... if that's as far as the bike will go then it's a bit disappointing.

The back wheel also has them but they're less than 1 cm wide.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole idea of getting your knee down it to keep the bike more upright around a corner to give you more speed.

You will grow out of worrying about chicken strips when you realise they mean jack $hit in the real world away from McDonalds. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I would still like to be able to use all the tyre.

Using sandpaper to scrub off the shiny stuff sounds like a good idea.

I wonder also if my technique is wrong ... the riding position on my ER-6n is such that there is no weight on my arms thus not much on the front wheel. Could this make a difference?
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to remember that unless you suddenly barrel into a corner at double your normal speed you aren't introducing that whole unscrubbed patch at once, and therefore won't crash.

If you sandpaper the chicken strips off you still won't use that part of the tyre as you're not leaning it that far over in your riding.

It's not the chicken strips that are stopping you from leaning over, it's your head.

If you just go a little fast each time then you'll gradually wear them off.

Don't bother with sand paper as I'm not sure what kind of affect it could have on the tyre. Bear in mind you'll be introducing an abrasive into the rubber during the sanding process.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would the sandpaper leave sand in the rubber of the tyre, maybe reducing grip?
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this thread real? I smell troll.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
Is this thread real? I smell troll.


Nah I get the impression some people do actually care about these things. Confused
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotted today at Goodwood Breakfast Club
(was attached to a Ducatti...and the front pretty much matched it!)

Not sure if the bit that goes beyond the chibbled section is real "wear" or what ?
(not sure if my reduced size pic shows the full wear line?)


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PostPosted: 18:56 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

robocog wrote:
Spotted today at Goodwood Breakfast Club
(was attached to a Ducatti...and the front pretty much matched it!)

Not sure if the bit that goes beyond the chibbled section is real "wear" or what ?
(not sure if my reduced size pic shows the full wear line?)


Regards
Rob


slow and steady wins the race
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
slow and steady wins the race


Not much choice on my CG125 Smile
I guess no matter how hard I try mine will never look like that

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PostPosted: 19:59 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Would the sandpaper leave sand in the rubber of the tyre, maybe reducing grip?


Probably more grit than sand, and may not decrease grip, but could increase wear?
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom wrote:
UnknownStuntman wrote:
Is this thread real? I smell troll.


Nah I get the impression some people do actually care about these things. Confused


I will never ever understand why people jump into a thread to announce that they do not care about the thread topic. Christ, if I went about writing "I don't care about this" in every BCF thread for which the statement was true I'd have to quit my job to make sure I got 'em all ... what is it you're expecting, a victory blow-job and cigar?
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Thing is it didn't feel like I was leaning over that much ... if that's as far as the bike will go then it's a bit disappointing.

The back wheel also has them but they're less than 1 cm wide.


From the sounds of it, your leaning the bike but keeping your body position fairly upright. This means your leaning the bike far more than you need to.

Try dropping your shoulder into the corner, and moving your entire upper body to the side, as if your trying to look around the side of the screen.

The trick is to shift your weight to the inside of the corner. It'll make the bike feel more stable, and it'll give you better grip and feel. Which it turn will give you the confience to get the bike faster and lower.

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Oh, and my vote says don't sand the slippy endges off! You just have to be progressive with how much you lean the bike until the chicken strips are gone. Helps if you let the tyres warm up properly too! And even if the rear is completely worn across th entire tyre, you'll still have strips >1cm wide on the front tyre, unless you are counter-steering pretty damned hard!

robocog wrote:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/dscf2666__small_.jpg
Spotted today at Goodwood Breakfast Club
(was attached to a Ducatti...and the front pretty much matched it!)

Not sure if the bit that goes beyond the chibbled section is real "wear" or what ?
(not sure if my reduced size pic shows the full wear line?)


Regards
Rob


Was that on a Hypermotard by any chance? If some, it's probably the result of some of this...

https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2008models/2008-Ducati-Hypermotard1100Se.jpg
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