Clutchups...

[tutton]

I know there is many many threads already about this, but there must be something im just not grasping...
Ive been practising power flickups for the last few days now, as as you'd expect its falling as i havnt got enough revs, and shift up and it drops. like so
https://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/Gfxs/th_bestsofar.jpg

Ive heard about clutch ups before
As in 2nd gear, around 4k hit clutch all the way in then loads of gas and let go, the 636 only seems to lurch forward which makes me think im doing something wrong as it dosnt feel like it wants to lift at all on clutch?
what am i doing wrong? body positioning? not enough revs? not letting clutch out fast enough?
Cheers for all the help
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[chris-red]

Can't wheelie for toffee but I would have thought you would need to be highier up the revs than 4k, more like 8.
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[G]

2nd gear on standard gearing at 4k rpm is probably a bit low - practice the technique (start small of course) in first, they play about at different points of the rev range in second.

Or get it higher in first .3

In the video it doesn't sound like you were running out of revs - have you made sure you can fully easily rotate your hand around to full throttle - start with your hand pointed higher up.

[tutton]

I did get it higher but my camera man was kicking stones most the fucking time
felt like i was running out of revs alot too, like bouncing on the limiter

So is it not dangerous trying clutching in 1st?
what kind of revs on a 636 would we be thinking 8k as it really comes on cam at like 10,
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[Acemastr]

best thing to do is try, if 4k won't get it up, try 6, if 6 can't, try 8, just cover the rear brake
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[swiftb]

This is in no way an expert opinion but what ive experienced while 'dabbling'. Ive clutched my '00 6R up in 2nd but it wasnt far off the limiter before I could get it to come up (prob 11-12k+)
Will clutch up at around 8k in first, I think (generally not looking at the rev counter when im trying to hoist a minger )
With revs any lower in 1st or 2nd it kind of just slips a bit and launches forwards.
I found a little tug on the bars meant I could get it up from lower rpm but gave me brown pants from getting a little to high for my own comfort.

[lllN30lll]

I f*cking hate photobucket vids, trying to watch it over and over so i can see where you're going wrong, but it keep buffering.
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[tutton]

Where you want it reuploaded mate and ill throw it up?
Surely that means if it needs to be around 11-12k clutch up, it wont rise enough before the gear change and fall?

Is the technique im trying correct, ride along at the revs clutch in loads of gas for like a second then just drop clutch out and hold on tight?
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[lllN30lll]

youtube please mate so I can stop it on the frame's I want.
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[R6jonny]

Clutching in 1st... why would you not just bring it up on the throttle... ??
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[lllN30lll]

watch at 2:12 on my video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNUaLiTfWKg

and you can see my 2 fingers, I take it yours is cable operated so it might not be as easy. It's a case of slipping the clutch, rather then holding it in, revving it and pinging it out IMO.
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[st3v3]

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[tutton]

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Ill upload all todays lil efforts up there.
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[ms51ves3]

[lllN30lll]

When my forks come back from the shops on Friday I'll do you a video mate

This is the only video i watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qncPBZ9DRRk Copy it to your phone, and go play on a quiet road or private road. Take your time and follow his steps.

Remember to keep your arms loose so the bike's front end doesn't have to lift your stiff upper body too, and sit as far back on the seat as you can.
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[st3v3]

[tutton]

[st3v3]

[lllN30lll]

lmao, was still in my clipboard, edited now
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[tutton]

How far out is the adjustment on your clutch is that literally just as its biting?
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[TUG]

[G]

Not hard really I'd say on most 600cc+ sports bike, but certainly easier using the clutch - also once you get used to it, more precise too.

[Ichy]

[J D]

Martin come down here and ill help you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UrF8scRf4g

Did that after only riding the bike for a minute previous to the video, Piece of piss

https://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5573/p1030759g.jpg

https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6254/p1030758l.jpg
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