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Ichy
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: What bike? Reply with quote

I have a 2000 CBR600f, 17k on the clocks and in fairly good nick. I like it, comfy enough and plenty of power. Unfortunately its got to go, I think.

A few weeks ago I start doing CBT training again. The problem is that the CBR doesn't cope well with the two hours on the road at 10-30 mph and I cannot U turn the sodding thing to save my life.

I have no money but need a bike to do the CBT's on. It must also be used for the daily commute and for fun. Only option seems to be to sell the CBR and buy something else, but I have no idea what.

Any ideas of a 'perfect' bike? Must be over 599cc.

Normally I'd stick it on ebay but are there any sites where I can offer it up for a swap?
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naked bikes? With the wide bars it's piss easy to u-turn. Could u turn easily on my Hornet...

Pretty much a naked CBR Wink

I assume when you say CBT you are the instructor Laughing Doh!

Daily commute won't be good on petrol though.

Is there any chance you can keep the CBR for fun? And buy something dirt cheap for CBT training?
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is not one perfect bike. I would have thought you would be able to keep the cbr, and have a general run around for doing cbt instruction.

Running more than one bike isnt necessarily very expensive, and you arent short of a bob or two.

The obvious choice for cbt instruction, would be a knackered old er5 or cb500.

Did you sell your yam cruiser to get the cbr ? If not, why not use that for the cbt stuff.

Dont so the swap thing as you limit your market. You would need to find someone who has what you need, and needs what you want.
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not hop on a 125 like the rest of them doing the CBT (as in I assume you have bikes provided to you for the purpose of training, you could just use one)?
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PostPosted: 06:19 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v: Doh! yes I'm the instructor Laughing Not fussed about the cost of fuel, my last two cars have been an R32 and a S5 Wink

Col: Sold the cruiser last year, I did use it for CBTs before then, not good. The second bike option isn't really an option at the moment due to personal reasons. I thought of swapping out of pure laziness but I guess your right.

Alexio: When you take 3 new riders out on the road you need something to keep them under control, part instructor, part Shepard. Wink
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PostPosted: 07:09 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most instructors ride huge BMW tourers don't they? Except one I knew that had a Triumph Tiger...
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: What bike? Reply with quote

I'd be thinking - down gear it a bit, so it feels more comfortable at low speed. Go and get some training to do U-turns Razz.
(Or you could see if you can adjust the lock stops a bit and maybe fit some wider bars.)

Plenty of sites you can request a px. See the sticky at the top of this forum for a list of bike buying/selling sites.

For CBTs something like a F650 might be a good option - rather slower than your average over 600, but cheap to get, should be quite easy to use and most have good turning circle I believe.
KLE500 maybe, too?
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:

The obvious choice for cbt instruction, would be a knackered old er5 or cb500.



Quote:
Must be over 599cc.



See what I did there ?
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Are you looking for something with a similar value to the CBR? Or to add some money to the pot, or to take a bit back out and have a cheaper bike?

If the same kind of ball park then I suspect a 600 Fazer would be my choice, as you should have plenty of choice at that price..

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PostPosted: 11:32 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
colin1 wrote:

The obvious choice for cbt instruction, would be a knackered old er5 or cb500.



Quote:
Must be over 599cc.



See what I did there ?


yeah but he was thinking of one bike mould

and i was pushing the two bike idea

so he wd keep the cbr for stuff he needs over 599 for, and use the 500 for the cbt stuff

original criteria are a starting point for discussion, not the be all or end all
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G: Good idea on the down gearing Thumbs Up Hadn't thought of that one and it would help the problem I have of riding a bike at low rev's that doesn't seem to work well below 3k. U turns? I don't know if its me or the roads around here but last time I got off and pushed it round and there was no way it would turn in the space available. I tried the Japanese police thing ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWaq0zOaAVU ) but just fell off Laughing I like the idea of a F650.

Keith: Happy enough to add a bit of cash if necessary.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwak ER6 or whatever there called what the instructors down here using. or say a bandit 12 /600 ?
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you practice, it’s quite possible to turn on full lock, which should do you for most streets you making newbs turn in I’d have thought.
Worth checking your lock stops – may have been made a bit tighter at some point, or may still have some space to give you a bit of extra turning.

I dropped the KLR once playing turning it on full lock; but it’s lock stops had been damaged and it’s turning circle was barely bigger than the wheelbase.
The whole thing is to get your instincts used to pulling on the power as it starts to fall – counter intuitive, but works.
The local IAM group teaches slow speed control, but not at lock – I found it pretty easy and didn’t really ‘learn’ from it. At an enduro school, they taught turning on full lock and made us go round in circles for some time until we could do it constantly without falling over at full lock.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you're not fussed about petrol get a naked CBR Wink
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 22 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWaq0zOaAVU


That is impressive! Its like they are riding on rails or something! Shocked
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PostPosted: 02:33 - 10 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the skills are particularly impressive when you read they are doing those tight turns on a VFR750.

Pretty lardy heavy beast.
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 10 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try www.swapz.co.uk
Seems to be lots of chavs wanting to get rid of their stolen mx bikes but there are some genuine people on there.
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