Turkish old style CG125 copy questions!

[621andy]

I've got a Mondial 125UAG, which is basically a Turkish copy of the 80s Honda CG, and is still in production here...

A few questions;
1. What should the tyre pressures be?

2. Were the drum brakes really that crap on the original?! (My dad had one, but never heard him complain-probably he didn't know any better!)

3. It has a habit of backfiring embarrassingly on the overrun- is this just excess fuel or can I adjust summat? There's just been a multiple shooting in town(welcome to the wild west!) and I don't want the trigger happy rozzers getting nervous!

4. How often should I change the oil? It gets quite hot here, and there're a lot of hilly bits. I've just done a change after about 2000km as it was looking black, but I just wondered how often the recommended frequency was back then?

Otherwise it's a good little runaround and is ideal for nipping around town here in the styx

[N cee thirty]

haha it looks egactly the sam except for the name :L


the tyres are like 25 on the front and 30 psi on the back,i just pump them till they feel hard.

i have dual drums and there crap,but they still stop the bike,eventuallyy...

as for the backfiring,maybe your ignition points need adjusting,unless its cdi.

i just do a oil change at 1000 miles.
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[Paxovasa]

Rear drum brake is OK, but front drum brakes

Does sound like the mixture needs to be adjusted slightly, that should stop the back firing.

2000km seems low to me, I would have thought about 4000 miles between oil changes. But it is up to you, if you want to change sooner it wont harm it
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[spanerman]

New shoes abd clean the hub out will make a world of difference to the brakes

Sam.

[621andy]

It's CDI, so don't really know what to play with!

Almost exactly the same as the old CG, with the addition of leccy start and the CDI ignition. They're two a penny here, and spare parts sooo cheap Just put on a new exhaust for the equivalent of 30€ including fitting and that was not the local price either! If I'd sent one of our crew round with it it'd have been even cheaper, but I couldn't be arsed.

Which is the mixture screw? I adjusted the tickover with a screw, but it could just as well have been the mixture

I certainly noticed the oil change- gear change is much easier and it runs quieter. With me on it(I'm not wot you'd call slim ) and the hills as well, I think it's working quite hard, then add on our touring about with the missus on the back, then I think 2000km is reasonable!

Anyway, thanks everyone for the prompt replies!

PS; Just attached a front view...

[621andy]

It had new shoes when I bought it! Think they're just full of erm, character. Just like a C90 really, but then so's the top speed

[spanerman]

[N cee thirty]

mixture screws on the underside of the carb on the engine side,you should see it

just a pain getting a screw driver on it
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[spanerman]

Use a small driver bit to get to it

https://www.bosch-do-it.co.uk/mam/bosch-pt-centralpool/diy/diyknowledge/lexicon/bit1.jpeg

Like that

Sam.

[N cee thirty]

aslong as its not like mine and doesn't move for some reason D:
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[carvell]

[Moo.]

25 on the front, 29 on the back

Or two up, 29 on the front, 32 on the back

Hehe, i have a '77 cg.. i've never had anything other then drums.. dont know any different all i can suggest is a milkmans grip!

Wouldnt mind one of those rear racks.. canny find em, none have the right fittings

Oil changes sound about right.. mine tends to get black after a while, but its a cg engine so should run for yonks!

They 12v over there?
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[robocog]

you mention a new exhaust fitted...
if there was a leak in the exhaust system it could also cause the over run backfire IME
Worth checking the gaskets are seated and nuts tightened before twiddling the mixture before properly establishing its the mixture at fault!

Regards
Rob
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Needs a bigger garage...

[hondapartsman]

I think other questions etc answered by other but thanks for interesting info, Mondial is an old make name I know so interesting to hear it still used. In late 90's Hondas CG which we had here was actually made in Turkey, I wonder if this was the same factory even though it seems strange if they were making them with another name on as well.
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[621andy]

Here's their website; https://www.mondialmotorcycle.com/
You may recognise some other models too! There's also a brief history of the company soemwhere on the site.

I briefly had use of one of these;
[img]https://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg244/621andy/DSCN8646a.jpg
also a Mondial product, but previous pilots here have ramped it so much that it can barely pull itself along, let alone someone my size

Thanks for the info everyone. I'll have a play later. The new exhaust was partly to try and cure the backfiring and the seal is very good, so I suspect the problem is mixture or the mysterious 'air cut off valve'

As to racks, you'd probably pay about 10€ for one here! I've got a top box on mine now that I paid 20€ for.

Oh and yes, they're 12 volt.[/img]