Hmm, which 100? Yam RS v Honda H100?

[Amreet]

Hi everyone,

After browsing for a new bike for ages, two have suddenly popped up all at once! I was thinknig I should really get a 4t bike to be sensible, but now these two came up, i just thought @*&% it, 2t

So candidate 1
Honda H100A, really nice clean looking bike, gorgeous paint and just generally looks very nearly ready to go back on the road, owner has v5 in his name and presumeably keys. apparently the bike ran until 'the carb went' so by the sounds of it that got binned and the bike is now carbless but ive already found someone breaking an h100 who has a good carb (it annoys me when people dont seem to be aware of how fixable carbs are?! its quite rare that a carb is just 'gone' and doesnt need cleaning or adjusting, oh well!)
as for price, im looking at offering around £70 which i think is fair? i suppose its what the bike is worth to me, and any less would be rude i think.
Afraid I cant seem to save pictures off ebay at the moment? will try again tomorrow



Candidate 2
Yamaha RS 100,
This one is in far worse condition, appears to have bits from several different bikes, silver tank, loads of red parts like foot controls etc. and shocks and blue frame. much more tatty and looks like it would need much more work but at least its not missing the carb? looks like it has a decent non stock exhaust, not sure what it is though. Has a disc front brake which looks far more adequate than the tiddly drum on the honda, but I guess I could upgrade to a wheel with a larger drum at the front? or even a whole new front end a some point with a disc setup even?

do you guys think either one would be far more/less reliable, useable or fun? any experiences with either bike would be great! I guess im leaning towards the honda because it will take less work and there is less unknown about it than the yam, but part of me thinks the RS might be slightly more fun? i really have no idea so anyones opinions would be great!

alternatively, if i want something reliable for every day use then should i just forget 2t for now?
cheers! and sorry for the expanse of text and lack of pictures,
Dan

[Frost]

Typical newbie, judging the bike by what colour everything is, what make the exhaust is etc The truth is that most small bikes are neglected as owners don't know how to fix things, and can't afford to have a garage do it. These owners often sell a bike on rather than cough up to get it fixed.

In truth a carb doesn't just 'go' but this may be the owner trying to explain a problem with the bike that is beyond their understanding.

2 strokes are fine they just need a little extra tlc in the form of regular rebuilds. I expect that the owner has experienced a loss in pwer from the bike and attributed it to the carb, but in reality it has no compression and needs a rebuild.

Did you say he wants £70 for a carb, or 70 for the bike?
70 for a carb is a fucking joke. 70 for the bike is a fucking BARGIN.

Its probably reasonable to assume that both bikes need a rebuild despite what the owners may say. It will cost a few hundred at a garage, more like £50 if you do it yourself.

Don't worry about drum brakes. Grand prix bikes used to use them years back and they worked alright. They will be more than enough to stop a light little 100cc bike. Don't even think about doing a front end swap on a bike you don't even own yet! Older bikes can easily become money pits. You keep throwing money at it hoping to make it better and worth more, £500 later your bike is worth £50 more and consumed weeks of your life.

Post some pictures and the info from the listings and i'm sure people here will be more concerned with helping you make the best choice than trying to buy the bike from under your nose.

[Amreet]

haha, i wasnt judging the bike by colour and the exhaust, i was just trying to paint a picture of the condition! The honda does like far more well kept, whereas the yamaha looks like someone assembled it out of parts they had lying around! And yeah i was looking at seventy quid for the honda at which price i think i will go and get it straight away, and i would never pay that for a carb!! I see what you mean about other issues being attriuted to the carb, he says there is good compression but i have a few more ideas from problems ive had wih bikes which seem to be caused by the carb but end up being unrelated.
And i know about refularly rebuilding two strokes, all i own is 2t and im currently rebuilding the engine on that,
I think out of the two ill go for the honda if everything is as it was described, but the main purpose of this thread was to see if anyone had some experience of either bike since i dont, and id really like to here any recommendations.
Cheers,
Dan

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[27cows]

The RS and H100 are both pretty crap, to be honest. But the RS100 is marginally less shoddy than the truly appalling H100, with its chocolate engine internals and rapid rust cycle parts.
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[Amreet]