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PostPosted: 18:55 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: 1000 BHP Busa Engine. Reply with quote

£5,220.00 I'll take 2!
Now what to put it in? Hmm.

https://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index.php?page=holeshot-hartley-v8
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you need to go and price that up again...
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh that was only for the turbo parts i guess.
I'll just have 1 then. Still... 1 should be plenty for a tesco shopping trolley.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how long between rebuilds for 1000hp when in a Radical SR8 chassis?
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I bolt it onto a CG125 without it exploding?
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not the parts for 1, thats some of the upgrade bits for the built V8. The engine itself is awesome though. For many years i've wondered why some manufacturers, hell why not suzuki? hasn't made a bottom end for 2 busa engines to make a V8. As engines go it will be light weight and very powerful for it's size. I can imagine the clutch being beefed up and a twat to use. Gearing would have to be very short to reduce stress at low speed, but in basic form it could be very reliable.

I suspect that 1000bhp one will last less time than a 500bhp busa engine due to more moving parts. Maybe a few days? Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
For many years i've wondered why some manufacturers, hell why not suzuki? hasn't made a bottom end for 2 busa engines to make a V8. As engines go it will be light weight and very powerful for it's size. I can imagine the clutch being beefed up and a twat to use. Gearing would have to be very short to reduce stress at low speed, but in basic form it could be very reliable.

I presume you realise they've been around for a good few years now? Think they tend to use a car gearbox and probably clutch too.

Listed at around 88kg, which is light, but then I think a small-block chevvy with ali stuff can end up at around 200kg and can probably handle 1000hp for a fair bit longer.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

88kg?

A standard 'busa engine is 77kg according to my bathroom scales. Perhaps I'm not just 14 stone after all Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A standard busa engine has a clutch, gears and probably includes the weight of various other bits and pieces.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard radical wanted to build a busa V8 to 'Give something back to the busa that has given rise to so much of radicals success' But last i heard they had given up.

If i had the cash i'd build something similar out of 2 CBR250 engines and make a 500cc V8 Drooling

Never gonna fucking happen though Sad
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
A standard busa engine has a clutch, gears and probably includes the weight of various other bits and pieces.


Yes that's the full weight of a complete engine with throttle bodies & all bits attached.

The 88kg for the V-8 must be for a bare engine, but you have to take into account it's a dry-sump so needs a separate oil tank, and that twin-turbo setup would put I'm guessing 20-30 kilos on top too.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, but suspect all the same applies to the small block chevvy too, so a fairly reasonable comparison.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect the chevy lump would be more substantial all around. Time will tell on how the cases hold up for that V-8 'busa engine.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 08 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
I heard radical wanted to build a busa V8 to 'Give something back to the busa that has given rise to so much of radicals success' But last i heard they had given up.

Powertec have been making them for quite some time now: https://www.powertecracing.com/ .
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not really recognisable anymore, it's more like siamese twins, joined at the block!
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long wondered why Triumph haven't put together a V6 1350cc yet.

That'd be blistering.
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the banks of cylinders has the camshafts running in reverse. Looks like they have used a normal aftermarket manual tensioner to tension the reverse-running side so the load which is normally pulled almost dead straight between the crank and cam is now running an arced path on what is usually the 'loose' side tensioner blade. That should make timing the cams interesting as changing the blade tension will potentially affect cam timing. Also puts extra load on the tensioner blade itself.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
I heard radical wanted to build a busa V8 to 'Give something back to the busa that has given rise to so much of radicals success' But last i heard they had given up.

If i had the cash i'd build something similar out of 2 CBR250 engines and make a 500cc V8 Drooling

Never gonna fucking happen though Sad


oh my christ i wouldnt stop w*****g over the sound that would make....


ohhhhh just had a crisis
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Long wondered why Triumph haven't put together a V6 1350cc yet.

That'd be blistering.


a 4.6l v6 would be better, Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Maybe, but suspect a lot more people could manage to lift a bike based on 2 675 engines off the side stand, while a pair of Rocket 3 engines would probably mean too many owners needing help (or surgery).

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PostPosted: 11:16 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ollieholt wrote:
DaFrostyOne wrote:
I heard radical wanted to build a busa V8 to 'Give something back to the busa that has given rise to so much of radicals success' But last i heard they had given up.

If i had the cash i'd build something similar out of 2 CBR250 engines and make a 500cc V8 Drooling

Never gonna fucking happen though Sad


oh my christ i wouldnt stop w*****g over the sound that would make....


ohhhhh just had a crisis


Moto Guzzi have already done it in the 1950s, their v8 500cc 4 stroke was capable of over 170 mph which is very fast for the 1950s
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a Honda CBX V 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEe6c3KIUB4
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Maybe, but suspect a lot more people could manage to lift a bike based on 2 675 engines off the side stand, while a pair of Rocket 3 engines would probably mean too many owners needing help (or surgery).

All the best

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If someone can manage this then I'm sure 2 rocket 2 engines will be no trouble. It is a v12 jag twinturbo lump IIRC.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres always a 1994 Morbidelli V8 if you can stand the looks
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 09 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

If someone can manage this then I'm sure 2 rocket 2 engines will be no trouble. It is a v12 jag twinturbo lump IIRC.


Someone might be able to, but is that person going to buy enough of them to make it worthwhile Wink .

radical wrote:
Theres always a 1994 Morbidelli V8 if you can stand the looks


And that is the better looking restyled version.

All the best

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