Ducati 749 track

[Ben.]

well no one wants to buy it so I'm going to be running it in thunder bikes (BEMSEE) next year. not the best idea but i'm not going to knock off £2000 of the asking price of a 4000 mile bike because the fairings are tatty. Anyway:

what it did look like:
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off with the old and on with the new!!

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gilles:
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racing brembo pads:
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looking for loads of stuff to put on it, its just what funds will allow. ohlins shock, fork internals and damper. new air intake. exhaust. air filters, dyno jet, quick shifter, racing subframe. carbon parts (mud guard, fins etc) black swingarm, clip ons, slipper clutch, vented clutch cover, 520 chain & sprockets. Cant do too much because it has a power to weight limit.

got race fairings that are going to be painted when i get back from cadwell. so anyone got any ideas for what to stick on the fairings for cadwell. was going to nick someones idea of writeing dufuckingcati up the side of it
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Are you allowed to run it in thunder bikes now?
Thought it'd be over the power to weight ratio and wouldn't meet other stuff?

Anyway, I would do some research in to what is needed to keep them reliable. The vast majority of sports Ducatis (as opposed to the desmo chapionship) that I've seen racing at club level seemed to have some serious problems, quite often blowing up engines etc.

[Frost]

A power to weight limit shouldn't stop you doing things to it. F1 cars for example have a minimum weight, yet they make everything as light as possible, then add steel plates to the bottom of the car as ballast. Though they all weigh the same, they can move that weight around to aid handling and mass centralisation.

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Yea, I'm aware of ballast, just doesn't 'feel' right - however it specifically says 748s are allowed, so the 749 probably is too.
Could swear it wasn't when it first started, but might be wrong - 4 cylinder 600cc bikes can only be used if they are pre 92.
https://www.thunderbike.org.uk/rules_overview.php

[Edit, in the detailed rules it says:
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valve per cylinder, up to 750cc (Ducati 749 to 2004 model not S or R) ]
I've got a feeling ben's is a newer model?

Nice to see you can now use the TRX850 .

[Ben.]

nope its a 2003 regular model. I have already checked out the rules etc. competition looks fairly quick so will have to do a bit of work to the bike
engines are much better on the 749 compared to the 748.
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Fair enough . From when I was racing (which was around when the class started) I remember the competition being pretty variable and was much more based on skill than the bike - there were a lot of people going slowly on fast bikes and a few very good people making the most of an average bike .

[bEN_]

Is it like the 848 challenge series which restricts you throwing alot of money at the bikes?
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[Frost]

There are a few series like that about. One i quite liked with the 600 steel framed bike series, so it's mostly old CBR's than can be bought for £500 with some basic mods and a set of race tires.

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See the rules link above - it doesn't allow any (bar the 748/749) modern decent sports bikes.
There's a power to weight ratio limit. However, after that you can spend masses of money on a bike if you want - and some do getting lardy old oil cooked GSXR to handle ok and the like.

Kinda fancied giving it a go at points. There tends to be less silly-fast people in than minitwins and you can have a bike in a nicer spec (no need to use original fork external bits for instance, so can get some easily adjustable GSXR forks on there or whatever.)

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[Ben.]

i asked for £3500 and got offered £2750. With 4000 miles it would be worth £4500, and people think a set of fairings and handle bar cost 2 grand. can fuck right off.
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[Spit-Fire]

whats wrong with it ?, it looks fine in the pictures
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[Ben.]

it basically needs fairings, foot peg, mirrors, and a clip on. Just had a full service inc. belts and clutch, 4000 miles, v5, all keys, full service history. Brand new MOT. it rides perfectly, it doesnt actually need anything other than for cosmetic reasons (because stuff is scuffed). People think im going to knock off 2 grand for stuff. I can brake it for close to 4k and can buy a full fairing carbon painted set for £500! fucking joke.
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[Alex A]

A Ducati road bike with scruffy fairings is pretty pointless. As a track bike, fine. But Ducati superbikes on the road need to look the part.

And I bet the cost of a set of OEM fairing replacements costs at least £1500, plus the other bits you're talking about. And I doubt many would consider putting Chinese fairings on a Ducati, at least not without it being very cheap to account for it.
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[Frost]

Scruffy ducati is the only ducati in my price range. I'd ride it like i stole it and probably mess it up even more. So i'd view any reallt scruffy ducati rider as being my kinda guy

[bEN_]

[Spit-Fire]

why didn't you just fix it your self then sell it and up the price ?
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[Ben.]

because i dont want to spend a grand on something im never going to use. i would rather use it as a track bike, spend a grand then sell it for 3500 as a track bike. Ive spent too much on it already, im not going to spend more and then never use my moneys worth.
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[Alex A]

The point is, if people are offering you 2 grand below market value because of the scruffy fairings, and you think 2 grand is way too much. Then fix it up as cheaply as you think it can be, and then sell it at market value. So if you can fix up up for a grand, then you've had to spend up front but you'll get market value back, and you'll have effectively sold it for only a grand less than market value after your costs.
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[Alex A]

[bEN_]

Well thats me fucked then
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I've crashed a lot more on the road than on trackdays.

I definitely do consider the expense of crashes - and was annoyed when I had a low speed spill on my GSXR then got made redundant (thankfully would actually be very cheap to fix up to saleable.)
I'm still happy enough that I had quite a lot of bits of fun riding before the crash - that I actually (it seems) was making some use of the bike I had paid for, rather than just paying to have a shiny display piece.

For me, taking a lot of pride in how clean your bike is suggests the rider isn't actually so bothered by the riding - it would seem to be more a status symbol thing.

But yes, I agree - a high proportion of Ducati owners are tarts.

[Alex A]

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