Honda...

[Frost]

[Sacarius]

^^^ hehe, agreed!
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[clemsta]

My mate has a Suzuki GZ Marauder. Nice bike, very comfy, reliable, cheap to run and buy, sounds quite beefy for a 125, 4 stroke so easily maintained, tops out at about 65Mph and thats restricted. Bad points - crap acceleration, no fairings, parts can be expensive as not many people have one.

7/10

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[clemsta]

It definetly IS restricted, my uncle has a suzuki dealership and he says it is restricted in the exhaust, theres loads of references on the net of it being restricted

[clemsta]

It definetly IS restricted, my uncle has a suzuki dealership and he says it is restricted in the exhaust, theres loads of references on the net of it being restricted

[Frost]

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[carvell]

As Keith said, the limit is 11kw, or 14.75bhp if you prefer.

Most 4 stroke 125's make between 12 and 15bhp.
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[bikedudextrm]

There's a guy in my class at college who has a honda rebel 125cc and he thinks it's a beast, he reckons he got 90mph out of it on a dual carriage way. He looks funny on it because he's about 6'4 and the bike is tiny. He said he raced a vfr400 aswell and he was keeping up with it .

But the shadows are guttless bikes and feel sluggish, if you're not worried about speed go for it as you will get bored quick if your into that kind of thing but you might aswell go for something like a cg.
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[Gti]

Clemster where are these references to the bike being restricted? All I can find is articles about it producing 12bhp including from suzukis own site....

Dafrostyone As carvell said the limit is 14.75bhp and I don't know of any 4 stroke 125 that makes over 15bhp, let alone 20.

They don't go over 14.75bhp because the manufacturer designed them not to go over that limit so they won't have to bother putting a restrictor in, thus saving them money and allowing people to do their CBT and just buy a bike knowing there's no legal requirement hassles to worry about.

At least I'm pretty sure that's how it is, unless the manufacturer is unwittingly doing themselves up the arse.

[clemsta]

Sorry GTi, i'm wrong when i looked on the internet for GZ Marauder restricted it brought up a few links but when i looked at them more closely they were talking about restricted licences.

Sorry bout that pal

[Frost]

Older 125' 4 strokes are more powerful than the more recent ones.
the early 80's CB125's were 16bhp, then the ones made after 82 were 12.
You wont find any road legal 20bhp 125's. however these can be made with tuning. It is possible for a 125 to be more powerful than 14bhp, as it is designed for reasons other than to meet UK spec, and then be restricted for sale in the UK.

[Gti]

Don't worry about it clemsta

I think they started to produce de-tuned 125 4 strokes when the learner limit was bought in to comply with it. So the older ones before that probably were past that limit, especially imported from countries without said restrictions.

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[Frost]

Yes there is a 250 comet, however build quality on them is some what questionable. look around and see if you can pick up a newish second hand one, should be in reasonable nick and fairly cheap.

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