Parking Ticket Advice.

[johnsmith222]

Hi guys.

I am going to ask what your opinion is about a parking ticket that I received today while parked.

This is a couple of photos of my bike and how it was parked. I chose to park here because there is a solid object to chain it to, it is not obstructing anyone and I also believed that I could not get fined because it is past where the pavement ends.

To say I am angry would be an understatement as there is no logical reason why I shouldn't park there as I am obstructing no one.


Do you guys think I should contest it?

Thanks for any tips. Money is quite tight as it is.

[blurredman]

It is worth contesting against. It is silly, because the 15 yards to the left of your bike looks like space enough to walk around it considering it is not part of the road...


I would say this though, you've crossed out your licence plate on your penalty charge but not on the picture of the rear of your bike
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[willis1337]

https://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?s=e024964ccc26d0938e67a9afcb12c352&act=idx

Have a look at the above forum and post there - bet you could get off it - for a start is that strech of paving owned by the council or the uni?

[69.9mph]

Is there a dedicated motorcycle parking area within the car park?

[stinkwheel]

It's always worth appealing a parking ticket.

That said. Technically there is a parking restriction in force there so an appeal "Because it's stupid, I wasn't in the way." is likely to fail. They live by the letter of the law.

Two tacks I'd think of 1) If the bit you're parked on isn't actually part of the street but instead belongs to whoever owns the carpark.
2) Check carefully for any errors with the yellow line markings. They need to be the correct width, unbroken and finish with a T-bar across the end.

Seems stupid. But you are more likely to suceed in an appeal on the basis that the yellow lines are 1/2" too narrow than by appealing to common sense.
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[johnsmith222]

How would I go about finding out who owns that land?

I asked the university at the reception but they were clueless.

The lamp post on the land made me doubt it was owned by the uni, but the actual slabs continue up towards the front of the uni.

The only issue is they offer the 30 quid fine if within 14 days, but if you appeal this goes up to 60.

[HD]

Im not saying what you should do but I think its absolutely stupid that they gave you a ticket. Its right in the corner ffs!

Unlucky mate
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[Blackwolf]

Hope that the uni owns it, other than that check the road markings
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[johnsmith222]

[Bloke]

Read the ticket. It's not the placement it's the time you parked there.

You can appeal in terms of where you placed your bike but if it's "residents only 9am - 5pm" and you parked there in contravention of the rules you're screwed.
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[R6Armadillo]

I'd check the back of the ticket for details on contesting as I'm currently contesting a parking ticket and the 14 day reduced fine period is frozen until they make a decision on whether or not to uphold the fine. This probably varies depending on the council though.
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[HD]

[johnsmith222]

Thanks guys.

So does it seem that my only chance is that the land is owned by the university?

Here's hoping that the 30 quid thing is frozen because then I'll definitely appeal it and try my luck.

There are pay and display bays on the street with a meter that you feed. It'd be rediculous for me to pay though because I am not taking a bay plus someone would nick my ticket.

[Tango675]

You might be able to get off as the penalty notice is for "parking in a restricted street during prescribed hours"
If the street does not show a parking restriction clearly at set intervals, or consist of just yellow lines you may be able to appeal that the restriction does not apply to the whole street, just those with yellow lines.

Also as you where on the pavement, surely they should have issued you with an obstruction notice not a parking notice?

If your uni has a law course, find out who is on it LOL.
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[johnsmith222]

I have been looking on the net to see if I could find out any information about the university and what land it owns. Looking at the paving I am parked on, I believed it looked quite new. I have found out that the uni has spend 250million on revamping itself/improving it's image and I suspect that this paving may have been part of it. It's unlikely this type of paving would have been done by the council on their own land.

This leads me to suspect that the land I am parked on has probably been bought by the uni and the lamppost was there before.

I will get onto the uni tomorrow as someone will need to know exactly what land they do and don't own.

Thanks for your help guys.

[calyx]

Contravention code might be wrong. It says 01 but I believe it should be 02 as it is a double yellow street.
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[shotgun]

You could always try the "No Contract" approach if you feel lucky, or are determined to be difficult. Look on sites such as Lawful Rebellion or tpuc.org for more info.

[Cheeseybeaner]

You could make a FOI request to the council to which they have to respond on the ownership of the piece of land upon which you were parked and their legal right to issue tickets upon it, they are legally required to respond to this and provide any evidence as requested.
Likewise you could ask your university for the same.
Unfortunately double yellows apply to both the pavement and road itself, so where you are parked (to them) is irrelevant basically.
Check the yellow lines though and see if they're all present and correct for a start.
If you submit an 'informal appeal' to them within 14 days its the norm to have the lower amount upheld until they respond - and they'll probably offer you a further 14 days after that at £30.
In London its £60 minimum rising to £120 if you appeal formally so you're not doing that badly!

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[ollieholt]

if it is your first one there you will probably get off with it. however, im my experience they go on to say if you do it again you will be charged. i think writing to the council on this matter may well help for future parking.




oh and on a side note, fucking parking nazis!!!!

hate them, sorry u got stung
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[neil.]

Your uni should have a 'site maintenance' or 'estates' department, and I bet they'll know whether they own that land or not.
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[woodyeee]

A good get out is.......your bike had broken down and you went to get some help! Back this up with a letter from a mechanic that fixed your bike ....it never fails

[bigblackjet]

just checked 01 code, i think you are shit proof.

you are not parked on the road.

so, wrong code, end of story, appeal.