good wage or job satifaction whats more important to you

[oldpink]

following on from the do you hate your job thread

whats more important to you (esp now in a recession)
personally I wouldn't do a job I do not like for money, I've walked out on high paying jobs (£25+ per hr)
because I hated the job or people I had to work with

I have to be happy in my work and enjoy doing it, that way its not a job to me
this is very relevant to me just now as I'm about to quit part of my duties and take a large pay cut
so I can spend more time with my family as my current job means I'm 500 miles from home
and have to travel every weekend if I want to see my wife & kids
and even then I see them for less than 36 hrs before I have to leave again

I will miss the duties I'm about to give up as I work with a small team (5 people)
but we do all get on well, take the piss out of each other and have a laugh
but we get the job done and cover each other when needed and socialise with days out
fishing, shooting or other activity's away from the work enviroment
and I consider my workmates as friends more than anything else

I can handle the loss of earnings as I can make money back home doing other things
and still be part of what I do now but work from home a lot more
I will loose out on the security of a guaranteed very good wage every week
or at least a big dent in my income, but without the expense of travel and cost of living away from home
I'll still be Ok even on a much reduced wage (It could drop at least £200+ a week)
but I will still get the satisfaction from my work at the end of the day
and be able to pay the bills (just)

if it was just a question of money I'd have quit long ago
but I do love what I do and my work collages but miss my family even more

so question is money over happiness
what would you do
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[bikertomm]

Hmmmmmm... Obviously high pay and being happy would be ideal

But at this moment in time I think I'd rather sit in on a well paying job no matter how shit it is, money can buy happiness on your weekends!


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[hellkat]

I only work to live, so yeah ... Its about the money.
I want a decent lifestyle, and to afford nice things.

I'm not interested in the trappings of wealth; I just want nice things, and not to struggle, so I only really go to work to have those things.

I've had several good jobs with huge job satisfaction over the years.

That's all well and good, but when you do a job you enjoy and you don't feel as though you are properly compensated for it ... you soon lose interest in even that, and move on to something else.
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[colin1]

I think it depends on your outgoings, or if you are saving for something.

My outgoings are low, and I'm not saving for anything, so job satisfaction would be preferable.

However the question sort of implies that its one or the other, as if low paid jobs are somehow more satisfying. I'd suggest high paid jobs can often be more satisfying, as they are more challenging.

However, with high paid jobs you are often expected to get more done, and this environment can lead to stress. I cope with stress fine, but being around people who don't is not pleasant. Everything is your fault.
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[oldpink]

I could earn a lot more money If I quit all together and did my own thing back home
(I worked from home before making well over 3k per month without leaving the house)
but as I said I do enjoy my job a lot and value the friendship I have with my boss and workmates
as I have been friends with them before I worked with them

and I'd be bored out my skull sitting about the house all day every day
and most likely end up arguing with "her indoors" more often as I'd be home every day
I'd be in her way and disrupt her routine as I've been working "Away" for the best part of the last 10 years
I spent 5 years in Amsterdam working and only getting home every other weekend at best

I will still have to travel a bit but no where as often as I do now
so the mrs will get a break from me being there 24/7 and I'll be happier
and I will also be working on other projects that will take me away for a week or two every few months
and involve going to Spain & Amsterdam and other country's which I also love doing

its just now I'm getting older (46 y.o) and sitting on a bus for 8 hrs each way is taking its toll on me
and I ain't getting any younger and want to get back to other things I enjoy
like a friday out with my mates back home and having a jam on the guitars and a few beers
something I miss these days or having a jam with my sons who are grown up and
spend a lot of time away from the family home and I only get to see occasionally
if their at home at the weekend when I am
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Double post.

[Flip]

Money. (And a good team),

[Black Knight]

Show me the money.
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[hellkat]

I agree that I would be grouchy if I was either indoors all day OR with my blokey 24/7, much though both ideas appeal immensely to me.

So I do enjoy having work to do, I doubt I could actually give up working. I would go stir crazy very quickly.

But similarly to Colin, my outgoings are reasonably low these days. (Other people seem very efficient at spending what money I do earn)
But I'd still like to be paid well for doing a job I like.

At present I'm being paid crappily for doing a job I actually don't like very much at all. I had to take the job on because of the irregularities caused in one's CV by running knocking shops for 6 years

So I'm almost done with the NHS again, and with being a ridiculously badly-paid medical secretary, taking flak from people who aren't seriously ill - just neurotic, and typing about everybody's fucking multicoloured snot (not to mention having to listen to telephone conversations about it) ... and get even less recognition than doctors and nurses, who work just as hard at the coalface of the NHS, to keep that overburdened old sow going, so as to appear to be remotely even CLOSE to the expectations of the general public (including myself)...

errrr ...
(/rant)

... oh yes, I'm almost ready to move away from the NHS again, and on to other stuff, except now there's fuck all interesting out there.

I might have to make my own things happen ...
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[oldpink]

[stinkwheel]

I have put the proposition to my girlfriend that we share one, stressful job between us. Just as floating the idea, not seriously looked into it.

Neither of us do a particularly "high flying" job that attracts big wages because we could do without the stress and like our free time too much but we're both qualified to do so.

It occurrs to me that if we shared such a job, we'd have enough money (less than now, but enough to not worry about it too much), less work to do and more time together. Both be off at the same times and such. One or other of us could always be home to have the dinner on the table and run the household in comfort.

Two people doing the job of one would actually take home more of the wage than one person would due to doubling up the tax allowances.

The tricky bit would be getting the idea across to the employer that he only gets one or other of us at any given time.
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[yambabe]

You two should be looking into running your own practice I reckon.

Then you could get someone else in to do the really shitty jobs, get a decent nurse and/or manager in to run the day-to-day and cherry-pick the jobs you enjoy yourselves and still walk away with most of the money at the end of the day.....
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

Since money is a hygiene factor (as opposed to a motivator) once you've reached your personal survival income the focus becomes more about job satisfaction.

I'd rather have an £18k a year job I loved than the £44k one I had that I hated.
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[defblade]

I need enough money; I'm lucky that I have a reasonable choice of how and where to earn it. I've dropped the amount I work before now as having plenty of extra cash is no fun if you're too grumpy and knackered on your day off to enjoy it!

I've left jobs before.... but not without a game plan, and I try not to burn bridges (you never know.....).

That may change with the current job - but I have some savings this time!




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Oops double post
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[Hex]

[waffles]

Im trying to save for a house deposit at the moment and have pretty expensive hobbies so getting paid well is a bonus. Although I am pretty happy with my job and earn above average for people my age so its all good.

I wouldn't do a really well paid job that I hated though.
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[Damon]

As a wise man once said.

Enjoy your job and you will never have to work a day in your life.

[chris-red]

It's a balance you can't be happy with one or the other.
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[GhostRider]

I'll take the money please, I can blank my mind to the annoyances of work for 8 hours if it means that I can say, fill up a tank of petrol without having to think "well, that means I won't be going out this weekend", which is pretty much the situation at the moment.

It's got to the point where payday means absolutely nothing anymore, I don't ever see myself getting a mortgage, I barely manage to save anything at the end of the month, and I'm 27 next March. This combined is far more depressing than any day at work could ever make me. It's even more depressing when you hear people getting paid ridiculous wages for a pointless job, an example that immediately spring to mind is my mates partner, who this year starting working at a secondary school as a Food Technology teacher, starting on £25k. Now, I have asked people if they remember doing any sort of food tech in secondary school, and what did it consist of. The general consensus (my own experience included) is making scones, biscuits, cakes etc. £25k a year to show kids how to mix eggs, milk and flour in different ways, what a fucking joke, and the cunts have the fucking audacity to go on strike every now and then.

So yes, give the fucking money, preferably before I throw myself under a lorry.

GhostRider
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[oldpink]

[Moonie]

Job satisfaction.

Although, I am on a pretty shit wage alot of the time so sometimes I have to go for the shitter but higher paying stuff.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

These days job satisfaction.

Going back years I landed up doing PC support for about a year (at RR, when the project I was doing programming work on got canned). Money wise it was a lousy thing to do with no real long term prospects, but I enjoyed it. Got to wander around seeing different parts of the company. One moment beside someone putting an engine together, next trying to swim through the carpets in a directors office. However not sure I would have wanted to do it for much longer as I wasn't actually producing anything.

I then landed up doing contract programming work. Money was good (although could easily have been better), but greatly enjoyed the work. Was pretty much empowered to get things done (excuse the buzz word). Fancied a change and landed up working in Belgium for 15 months. Far better money and similar enjoyable work. However being away so much and the amount of traveling got to be a bit much. Enjoyed it while it lasted, but been there, done that, bought the T shirt.

Landed up moving back to where I had previously been contracting. Meant a 50% pay cut, but the work was enjoyable, and things still got done. The pay cut didn't bother me too much.

However the work became unpleasant, nothing got done while pay didn't go up (lack of pay rises on existing contracts was used as a method to bully me and others onto worse employment contracts). Zero thanks at best for any effort put in. Basically become a very unpleasant place to work to the extent that I just handed my notice in and left before I killed someone.

From these experiences I would say that while high pay is nice, I am not prepared to put up with a nasty working environment for it (and honestly couldn't these days for any length of time).

All the best

Keith
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[Hetzer]

The only jobs I've ever had that lasted longer than six months (I don't count the military as a job) were teaching English (which is why they lasted longer than six months I guess). Being paid quite large amounts of money to have young ladies throwing themselves at one was immensely gratifying.

I know few will consider drug-dealing as a job but two years of that was also very rewarding in both terms (money and satisfaction).

Fixing computers for the last 12 years has been tedious.
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