can i ride a 50cc on my license

[nash121uk]

hi guys quick question i did my cbt in 2004 and passed my driving test in 2005 now does that mean i can ride a 50 cc without l plates without doing another cbt

on the back of my livense it has
b 01
b1 01
fkp 1,122

thanks in advance
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[blurredman]

I believe you can use a 50 on your licence, since you've done the CBT.


I also believe you do not need L plates and can carry pillion.
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Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[nash121uk]

yeh thats what i though as well thanks alot mate
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[The Artist]

I don't think so.

CBT runs out after 2 years and you need a driving test before 2001.

Someone who knows, back me up with some facts please.

[nash121uk]

from my understanding that is correct on a 125 cc bike but if a full license is gained withing 2 years of the cbt then you can ride a 50cc till the age of 70 with out l plates and you can carry a passenger
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[The Artist]

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[nash121uk]

i agree the internet is very confusing on this but what about the entitlements on my license surely these back up my theory
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[carvell]

I was pretty sure that if you pass your car test after 2001, you can just take one CBT and then ride a moped (i.e. a 50cc) with no L plates etc. for life.

This seems to confirm that:
https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/DG_10016249

I would call the DVLA though if I were you, to confirm.
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[nash121uk]

well untill the age of 70 to my understanding yeh
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[nash121uk]

upong checking again im 99.5 % sure im right as ive done some more reading up but have just noticed on the counterpart (paper)
there is no (p) category ,,,as this is what indicates a 50 cc engine is authorised to be driven on a full license
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[map]

Best bet is to give DVLA a call when they're open, explain the situation and then post what they say back into this thread.

As I said above, I understand it as if CBT required then licence only valid for the entitlement while CBT valid (2 years). So if full car licence obtained before Feb 2001 no CBT required so you can ride on L plates on moped until licence expires (70th birthday). Otherwise you need to renew CBT for licence entitlement to be valid.

Also if you must show L plates then you can't carry a pillion/passenger.


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[blurredman]

When you have a full car licence, you have an 'locked' moped licence, which would automatically be available to you to ride some 20 years ago. A CBT allows you to 'unlock' that full moped entitlement on your full car licence and therefore the CBT will last the length of your licence. However, If you wish to use a larger motorcycle than 50cc then your CBT is limited to 2 years for anything larger than 50cc- however, a moped is still available to you.
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[pits]

Simple way to do this
Do you have a full licence for a car?
Did you pass your test for the car licence before Feb 2001?

If the answer is yes to the above you can ride a 50cc scooter with a CBT

However if you have passed your test post February 2001, like you have you will need to do a CBT to ride a 50cc scootay up to a 125

A CBT only last 2 years

So you will need to do another CBT if you want to ride a scootay, otherwise you will not be riding within accordance of your licence.


You only have that "locked" entitlement if you choose to have it when you apply for your driving licence, if you don't tick the box for bike entitlement you can't ride a bike.

[c_dug]

Pretty sure there was a thread on this a while back and it turned out that if the car licence was done when the CBT was valid, or if the CBT was done after the car test was passed, then the CBT does not expire until the car licence does

Hope that makes sense.
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[nash121uk]

[Bloke]

The correct answer is...

If you pass your car licence within two years of a cbt or have a full car licence beforehand (pre or post 2001 it makes no difference) you obtain a full class p licence and may ride a moped (50cc) without l plates including carrying pillions for the duration of your car licence.

Your cbt certificate is proof of the class p entitlement so keep it safe.

2 years validity applies to any machine that is not a moped for all licence holders and to people who do not have a full car licence.

Pre 2001 car licence holders have the ability to ride a moped on L plates without requiring a cbt in the first place.

So in summary:

Pre 2001 car licence with no cbt? Ride a moped (see dvla definition) on L plates

hold a valid full car licence and then do a cbt? Ride a moped without L plates for duration of car licence, ride any sized (max 125cc unsupervised) motorcycle/scooter on L plates for two years.

hold a valid cbt then pass your car test while it's valid? Same as above.

hold a cbt only? Ride upto 125cc for two years on L plates.
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[yuri2085]

Source?

[Bloke]

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I found this little snippet on the directgov website

If you have a car licence...
If you obtained your full car licence before 1 February 2001 you are automatically entitled to ride a moped without L-plates (D-plates in Wales).

If you obtained a full car licence after 1 February 2001 you must first complete a CBT course and obtain a DL 196 certificate to validate your entitlement.
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[daxo]

Plz help me our here im confused.
I have car driving licence obtained after 2001, Now I will do my CBT.
does it mean that if I pass my CBT, can I ride a 50cc moped without L plates and can I carry a passenger?

can I ride a 125cc motorbike without L plates and carry a passenger?

[Bloke]

[EUMP]

125 = no, 50cc = call DVLA.
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