Stupidest design award......

[mistergixer]

....goes to whoever designed the headlight assembly on the Kia Sedona.

I've just been trying to change the sidelamp bulb on mrsgixer's Sedona, i've never before owned a vehicle where it was necessary to get the spanners out just to change a sodding bulb! Unless you have tiny oriental hands, there just isn't enough room to get a normal man-sized hand in to the rear of the assembly.

I thought maybe it's just me being a bit thick, but a quick google revealed it isn't just me, it's a monumentally stupid piece of design - the whole headlight assembly has to be removed just to get access to the bulbs.

FFS, i just want to change the sidelight bulb, not launch the fucking space shuttle.


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[Blau Zedong]

It's not just Kia..I believe Vauxhall and Renault are following the same school of design stupidity.
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[Hetzer]

I think the hands-free pump on the soap bottle rates right up there for utter stupidity.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

That kind of lousy design on car headlights isn't unusual. Did one bulb on the Jaguar last night and was going to check the other until I realised the ABS pump was just behind it (if the bulb had failed I would have persisted, but the pain and cuts were not worthwhile just to check the bulb was seated and was a high power one like the other side). The 156 isn't quite as bad but not nice. Alfa 147s are a pig to do (officially bumper off and a few hours labour, although a decent specialist can do it from below in a minute or so).

That said, not having to get the spanners out to change a bike headlight bulb is a rarity.

All the best

Keith
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[MarJay]

I have been told by a BMW specialist that a BMW X3 needs 3hrs of labour to replace a bulb because you need to remove the bumper...
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[Villers]

The manual for the mrs fiesta says to take the headlight unit out to change the bulb, which Ive had to do twice. The dealer wanted £25 to do it. My vectra was the same, its a joke and a con!
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[ollieholt]

You are not alone! there are idiots every where! listen to those prices!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXCZ2v-nIF4
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[jay12329]

My Mk1 focus the dealer would take the bumper off and headlight out to change. It wasn't easy but me and my dad managed to change both in about 3 hours or fiddling with clips and taking chunks off fingers.
I think garages need a 14 year old girl on he staff to do this sort of job!

J

[Silver]

You bought a Kia and you're claiming someone else is stupid?

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[panrider_uk]

My Kia Carens is the same.
Undo 3 bolts and take the headlight unit out to change the bulbs according to the manual.

I just had it serviced and it needed a replacement sidelight bulb.

The mechanic just reached in and managed to pull the bulb connectors out and change it piece of cake!

Mark
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[mistergixer]

@ Panrider - was it N/S or O/S? I could just manage to get into the recess for the N/S (didn't need doing, i was just checking to see if it was me being a 'tard), but the coolant res and washer res were both in the way on the O/S - hence my removal of the headlamp assy.

TBH, it wasn't that much of an arse, took me about 15 minutes to do (including removing it again because i forgot to put the cover back on ), i'm just used to bulb changes being a 'tool-less' process.

@ Silver - having previously owned both a Ford Galaxy and a Toyota Previa, i'm generally really impressed with the Kia. For the money we paid for it, the spec/trim level is very good, other than minor maintenance it's never had a major problem (touches wood), and the interior is very well laid out. My only real gripe is the sloppy cable linkages for the gear shift which can be a little porridge-like.
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[scorps]

For gods sake dont buy a polo then, i decided last time to let halfords change the bulb as I got sick of cutting myself trying to turn my hand into a contortionist position, they have buggered the motor thing which raises the headlight, dont ask me how but they will reimburse me if a vauxwagon garage can prove it was them. I then got quoted 150 if it needed adjusting and 300 if I needed a new one

Will cook a mate Sunday dinner and he can look at it for me.
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[ollieholt]

I took it no one saw the video, that renault magane costed £50 odd quid to have a light bulb changed, if it had xenon lights it would have cost over £300!

To be honest I sold Kias new for a while, they are very very cheap for what you get BUT they do depreciate accordingly. buying one a couple years old is always a winner. Sedona, they had the 2.9 CRTD in them? Very spacious 7 seater those. what year is it?
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[DrDonnyBrago]

On my 97 toyota corolla, I open the bonnet and pull out the bulb carriers on the back of the lights, takes about 5 minutes to change both of the headlight bulbs.

Old jap cars FTW .

[ollieholt]

Same with my old Audi, I think I could actually curl up and sleep under my bonnet there is that much room.
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[mistergixer]

[panrider_uk]

They must be good value for money - my accountant has one

Mark
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