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Cruisers aren't the most newbie-friendly bikes. You'd be better off with something like a CG125 or a YBR125.
I'd also stay away from anything chinese.
I'd say go for the 125 geared, gears are not that hard to master. ____________________ Willson - "If you go out on that CBR600 in the winter, you're going to do more miles on your side than on your wheels."
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No, they're mostly piles of shite.  ____________________ Willson - "If you go out on that CBR600 in the winter, you're going to do more miles on your side than on your wheels."
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I have to say, Im a big chap, 6ft 3 and 20 stone my first bike was a Haotian HT125-8. They are cheap to buy and maintain with plenty of parts from Ebay and support from the owners club that Rogerborg is a moderator of. I believe they are CM125 clones with a CG125 cloned engine.
Very comfy with an upright riding position.
https://www.learnerlegal.com/hn1258-p-29.html |
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| Benson_JV wrote: | Cruisers aren't the most newbie-friendly bikes. You'd be better off with something like a CG125 or a YBR125.
I'd also stay away from anything chinese.
I'd say go for the 125 geared, gears are not that hard to master. |
Benson does have a point. Cruisers can be a pain in the arse for doing slow-speed manovures on. I personally have a CG125 and I learnt the gears in an hour. They're very simple to get used to, and tbh I prefer them to twist-and-go's anyways
Good luck and if you have your own bike...use that for your CBT, theres nothing better than learning on your own
As for chinese made bikes....:O steer well clear. Parts are cheap, bikes are cheap but there's a reason for that. Think, if you can buy a brand new one for £800, how much would it be worth when you sell it? Like £400? I've seen one recently go for that much and that was on a 59-plate xD get something Japanese, reliable and in good condition, keep it nice for a year and sell it for pretty much what you paid for it  ____________________ Past Bikes: '97 CG125, '91 GPZ500S, '01 FZS600, '07 S/Triple, '99 ZX9R, '82 GP125, '83 GP100, '03 SV1000S, '98 ZX6R
Current Bike: '07 FZ1N
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thanks for all the input guys im going to get hold of one of my relatives who is bike mad to help me find a good bike  |
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Pah you guys-a know a-nothing!
Perfectly possible to do Mod 1 on a cruiser. More difficult? Hell yeah, but still doable. You'll have to really push it round the curve, lean right over to the point where it's uncomfortable and pin the throttle as early as you can to even hope to get near 50km/h.
If you like exercises in futility, do it on a cruiser (I did twice, then passed on a CG. My GZ only ever managed 49KM/h through the speed trap). If you want to make it easier for yourself, CG or YBR. |
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Agree with all of the above. Definitely 125, and geared.
A proper long, low cruiser stylee like a Jinlun JL125-11 will be heavier, accelerate less briskly and be less easy to manoeuvre than a commuter, so harder to pass Mod 1 on.
The CM125 copy-bikes (Lexmoto/Haotian/Houniao HN/HT125-8 / Vixen) are just a joy to ride, and make ideal training/test bikes if you intend to run them into the ground.
Reliability and build quality are pleasantly surprising (apart from the side stand switch connector block), but they will lose value fast, and you won't get back any money you put into them. If you're looking at internet prices, remember that they tend not to include delivery, number plate, or the £70 first registration and road tax.
So much as I like my Huoniao, financially a used Japanese-branded 125 does make more sense, if you can get a good one.
Anyway, you should be doing your CBT on a training centre bike, probably a CG125, YBR125 or maybe even (gasp) a Chinese-branded copy, so get that done and it'll give you a better idea of what you want from a bike. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Avoid the chinese bikes and go for a 125cc geared.
In fact, if you are in a position to, just go for the A2 or DAS route, probably cheaper in the long run ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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What would you pay for this?
Read that thread. if you like cruisers, and no law says you shouldn't fine, but dont buy a 125Cruiser... and CERTAINLY not for CBT and tests!
They are NOT built for easy, nimble handling at low speeds. The whole genre is for straight line 'cruising'.
Yes, possible to hustle one through cones, but its bludy hard work, and you are making it an alful lot more difficult for yourself.
Doing test manouvers, I actually found putting a super-Black-bird through the CBT cones easier than a 125 Cruiser! YES THAT much more hard work for yourself.
And they aren't great value, and they dont sell anywhere near as easily.
Read this on my webby too: Recommend Me a First Bike
Potted, that says, forget muggering about with 125's prioratise getting a licence.
If you want to get a bike to get your licence on, budget thr training and tests, then use whats left to get something as tidy as you can find and afford by way of a conventional commuter, like a CG125 or YBR125.
Not flashy, not fast, boring hum-drum bikes, BUT they are brilliant at what they do. And are brilliant learner bikes, being easy to ride, and probably the easiest to hustle through CBT and test manouvers.... which is WHY all the schools have them as school bikes!
Three to six months on something like that, tests made easy, tests done and licence in your pocket, THEN you can go looking for a cruiser, and if you HAVE to have a 125, then fair enough, cheap, ecconomical, etc... BUT no need to try and do gymnastics through the cones on the thing. Or you can go look for a full-size cruiser, or any other bike that takes your fance and you feel comfy on.
But, starting point would be to direct you twaords a Yamaha 535 Virago, which is as cruisery as they come, a well proven, well rated little bike, good newbie mount, shaft drive for easy livability, faster than a 125, brisker off the line, more comfy, more udeable, and ACTUALLY no more expensive to buy, insure or run, than a 125 on L's.......
Makes NO sense muggering about with a 125 Learner-Legal Cruiser... its just making life harder for yourself. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Old Thread Alert!
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