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rhysjames02
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: doing my cbt soon but what bike should i use? Reply with quote

hi there
im doing my cbt soon and ive seen a bike ive well fallen in love with its a simple 125cc crusier bike which is geard and priced at 799 on a 60 plate and i was wondering is it hard to learn on a geard bike or shall i do it on a moped a 50cc one but i was thinking because im a big boy in 6ft1 and 18 stone so would a 50cc moped cope with my mass haha and ive only recently thought about getting a bike due to the fact car insurance and petrol is just stupid but a bike is really economical and its only for use to and from work

many thanks
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cruisers aren't the most newbie-friendly bikes. You'd be better off with something like a CG125 or a YBR125.
I'd also stay away from anything chinese. Thumbs Up

I'd say go for the 125 geared, gears are not that hard to master.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers benson but i would of thought chinese bikes would be reliable like asain cars are but ill have a look and thanks again
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they're mostly piles of shite. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhysjames02 wrote:
cheers benson but i would of thought chinese bikes would be reliable like asain cars are but ill have a look and thanks again


Yeah that's what people tend to think and i even fell into that group once. Try to stick with the well known names such as Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Kawaski etc... Best to go onto a 125cc rather than a 50cc.

EDIT: Not trying to be harsh but personally due to your weight i'd go with the 125.

Good luck with your CBT mate Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say, Im a big chap, 6ft 3 and 20 stone my first bike was a Haotian HT125-8. They are cheap to buy and maintain with plenty of parts from Ebay and support from the owners club that Rogerborg is a moderator of. I believe they are CM125 clones with a CG125 cloned engine.

Very comfy with an upright riding position.

https://www.learnerlegal.com/hn1258-p-29.html
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

totalllama82 wrote:
I have to say, Im a big chap, 6ft 3 and 20 stone my first bike was a Haotian HT125-8. They are cheap to buy and maintain with plenty of parts from Ebay and support from the owners club that Rogerborg is a moderator of. I believe they are CM125 clones with a CG125 cloned engine.

Very comfy with an upright riding position.

https://www.learnerlegal.com/hn1258-p-29.html


Plenty of parts 'cause they all keep breaking and people put the parts on ebay. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
totalllama82 wrote:
I have to say, Im a big chap, 6ft 3 and 20 stone my first bike was a Haotian HT125-8. They are cheap to buy and maintain with plenty of parts from Ebay and support from the owners club that Rogerborg is a moderator of. I believe they are CM125 clones with a CG125 cloned engine.

Very comfy with an upright riding position.

https://www.learnerlegal.com/hn1258-p-29.html


Plenty of parts 'cause they all keep breaking and people put the parts on ebay. Thumbs Up


Aye thats true Very Happy Although, I never had any mechanical issues with my little bike and it was 5 years old. The tin worm had set into the chrome a little but then thats me using it during the winter and putting it away dirty Rolling Eyes

Brand new one at £700 quid would do him for a few summers or until his test is done, then punt it off!
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
Cruisers aren't the most newbie-friendly bikes. You'd be better off with something like a CG125 or a YBR125.
I'd also stay away from anything chinese. Thumbs Up

I'd say go for the 125 geared, gears are not that hard to master.


Benson does have a point. Cruisers can be a pain in the arse for doing slow-speed manovures on. I personally have a CG125 and I learnt the gears in an hour. They're very simple to get used to, and tbh I prefer them to twist-and-go's anyways Thumbs Up

Good luck Very Happy and if you have your own bike...use that for your CBT, theres nothing better than learning on your own Wink

As for chinese made bikes....:O steer well clear. Parts are cheap, bikes are cheap but there's a reason for that. Think, if you can buy a brand new one for £800, how much would it be worth when you sell it? Like £400? I've seen one recently go for that much and that was on a 59-plate xD get something Japanese, reliable and in good condition, keep it nice for a year and sell it for pretty much what you paid for it Smile
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the input guys im going to get hold of one of my relatives who is bike mad to help me find a good bike Razz Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pah you guys-a know a-nothing! Laughing

Perfectly possible to do Mod 1 on a cruiser. More difficult? Hell yeah, but still doable. You'll have to really push it round the curve, lean right over to the point where it's uncomfortable and pin the throttle as early as you can to even hope to get near 50km/h.

If you like exercises in futility, do it on a cruiser (I did twice, then passed on a CG. My GZ only ever managed 49KM/h through the speed trap). If you want to make it easier for yourself, CG or YBR.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont worry about learning the gears. Its easy. I did my CBT on sunday. The 1st time Ive even sat on a bike and I only stalled twice the whole day.
The hardest part was the slow speed clutch control for the u-turn and creeping up to junctions bits. By the end of the day you will have mastered it.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with all of the above. Definitely 125, and geared.

A proper long, low cruiser stylee like a Jinlun JL125-11 will be heavier, accelerate less briskly and be less easy to manoeuvre than a commuter, so harder to pass Mod 1 on.

The CM125 copy-bikes (Lexmoto/Haotian/Houniao HN/HT125-8 / Vixen) are just a joy to ride, and make ideal training/test bikes if you intend to run them into the ground.

Reliability and build quality are pleasantly surprising (apart from the side stand switch connector block), but they will lose value fast, and you won't get back any money you put into them. If you're looking at internet prices, remember that they tend not to include delivery, number plate, or the £70 first registration and road tax.

So much as I like my Huoniao, financially a used Japanese-branded 125 does make more sense, if you can get a good one.

Anyway, you should be doing your CBT on a training centre bike, probably a CG125, YBR125 or maybe even (gasp) a Chinese-branded copy, so get that done and it'll give you a better idea of what you want from a bike.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid the chinese bikes and go for a 125cc geared.

In fact, if you are in a position to, just go for the A2 or DAS route, probably cheaper in the long run
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would you pay for this?
Read that thread. if you like cruisers, and no law says you shouldn't fine, but dont buy a 125Cruiser... and CERTAINLY not for CBT and tests!
They are NOT built for easy, nimble handling at low speeds. The whole genre is for straight line 'cruising'.
Yes, possible to hustle one through cones, but its bludy hard work, and you are making it an alful lot more difficult for yourself.
Doing test manouvers, I actually found putting a super-Black-bird through the CBT cones easier than a 125 Cruiser! YES THAT much more hard work for yourself.
And they aren't great value, and they dont sell anywhere near as easily.
Read this on my webby too: Recommend Me a First Bike
Potted, that says, forget muggering about with 125's prioratise getting a licence.
If you want to get a bike to get your licence on, budget thr training and tests, then use whats left to get something as tidy as you can find and afford by way of a conventional commuter, like a CG125 or YBR125.
Not flashy, not fast, boring hum-drum bikes, BUT they are brilliant at what they do. And are brilliant learner bikes, being easy to ride, and probably the easiest to hustle through CBT and test manouvers.... which is WHY all the schools have them as school bikes!
Three to six months on something like that, tests made easy, tests done and licence in your pocket, THEN you can go looking for a cruiser, and if you HAVE to have a 125, then fair enough, cheap, ecconomical, etc... BUT no need to try and do gymnastics through the cones on the thing. Or you can go look for a full-size cruiser, or any other bike that takes your fance and you feel comfy on.
But, starting point would be to direct you twaords a Yamaha 535 Virago, which is as cruisery as they come, a well proven, well rated little bike, good newbie mount, shaft drive for easy livability, faster than a 125, brisker off the line, more comfy, more udeable, and ACTUALLY no more expensive to buy, insure or run, than a 125 on L's.......
Makes NO sense muggering about with a 125 Learner-Legal Cruiser... its just making life harder for yourself.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What teflon mike said really.

Don't get a chinese bike, they aren't known for their quality and whilst you get the odd exception, they are in general a utter load of complete shite.

Cruisers are hard to wriggle through cones so something more upright i.e. CG etc will be far more suitable.

Getting your test done is your best bet, a larger choice of bikes i.e. the virago or the jap 800s and you might change your mind and fancy something faster/more agile. Consider DAS too, not as expensive as you might think when you consider the PITA of buying and selling 125s and paying over the odds for something learner legal.
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