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Posted: 21:42 - 04 Apr 2011 Post subject: Re: Derbi Senda 125 Baja Sm - 4 Stroke - VERY VERY SLOW - 60 |
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You can have a decent 4 stroke 125, you just have to do your research first and look at the facts in front of you.
My 125 was an MZ SM, it was only a 4 stroke but it was a 4v, DOHC, 6 speed motor with a KTM cooling system that was bang on the 15hp limit for learners in a sweet, light supermoto frame with decent wheels, tires, brakes and suspension. It would maintain a realistic 75mph on the flat, 80+ on the downhill sections and 65 up relatively steep inclines. I weigh 16 stone and am 6"1 and it fit me like a glove. It also managed 110mpg, though obviously not at the same time as being flat out.
You can find relatively recent ones cheap as chips as they are made by MZ and therefore have bolluck all resale value.
Being a slightly more advanced engine than usual they also responded well to tuning, the one in this picture was chucking out 18hp @ the rear wheel. Doesn't sound much but if you consider a CG125 will struggle to make 11... ____________________ Bikes: too many, too much for one man to maintain anyway. |
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4T 125's and L plates are deeply linked for one reason.
L's arnt allowed on the motorway, so you cant go over 60
4T 125's are the most sensible 125's therefore they do 60.
if you want a quick 125 that don't make you look silly and allow you to speed/break the law take out your 125 engine and replace it with a 250. Youll get the speed, youll get the bike you want, and youll still be breaking the law.
go over 60 on a L plate and you mess up. Which we will ( im a learner to) eventually. your insurance wont cover it if its found you were speeding. So why not go the whole hog?
On a serious note. Why do you need to go over 60 anyway? all the roads have a speed limit for a reason. Its better to remain in those speed limits because Learners dont have the experiance to deal with sticky situations like taking a bend and sliding on oil or shit on the road. Wait untill an instructor has turned around and given you a bit of paper that tells you your an adequate rider before you think you personally think you are.
Just stick at 60. If all your mates have 33bhp rs125's and you want to keep up with them, just hang back 3 corners, and you can overtake them while their either fixing their bikes or fishing them out of hedges.
Or better yet! find a friend who is an experianced rider, and youll realise they only cane it infrequently and only when it is safe to do so, ie. no one else is around!
However to solve your problem, change the sprockets, front one goes up, back one goes down. Youll gain 5mph but will slow down your acceleration by a while.
just take your test.
deal with it. ____________________ 2004 Rieju Rs2 Matrix 50cc, 1982 Honda CG125, 1986 Honda Cm125, 1982 Honda Cb125..... I kill a lot of 125's |
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Doing a test and passing is valuable learning in itself. It isn't like if you're crap that you will pass. Also riding a bigger bike is not life threatening as you make it out, it is all to do with your own self control. If you want to ride at 70 on a 400, then why not? No one will force you to go more. ____________________ Hit the G spot. |
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National speed limit on dual carrageways and motorwats is 70mph unless stated like built up areas.
Single carrageways is 60.
I just got 50/50 on my bike theory! |
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Posted: 23:07 - 08 Apr 2011 Post subject: Re: Derbi Senda 125 Baja Sm - 4 Stroke - VERY VERY SLOW - 60 |
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G wrote: | engine designs - for instance the 20 year old CB125T . |
Yup, a twenty FIVE year old CB125T infact.... stunning me, after recent top end rebuild, achieving not ONLY 70mph on the Duel Carriageway, where 'special regulations' lift the 'blanket' Nat Speed Lim to 70.... but also doing it TWO UP!
Even MORE incredibly....... without BLOWING UP!
Though was SURE that cam chain was making a bid for freedom!
And that's the 'Reduced Effect' version..... the older, (1977-1981) CB125T's had an extra 25% more power..... I think it was siphoned off the headlamp!
B3NN10N, its a low tech 125 commuter engine in dirt dress, it ent never gonna be quick!
You have a number of options, list is not exhaustive:
Live with it.
Avoid Duel Carriageways.
Get different bike
Pass test & get bigger bike
Dick about with it, fitting loads of 'go fast' and 'race tune' goodies from China, off e-bay, avoiding the big no no 'big bore' kits taking you over legal capacity limit for L plates, and hopefully get perhaps, eleven bhp from your motor, briefly between siezures, to attain an extra 5mph...... with traffic blasting past at 80+ on Duel carriageways it STILL wont make much odds.....
Best bet, slip stream a truck, and enjoy the ecconomy! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Do the test and get something that can handle the roads you need to travel on.
You've said you're 26 so you can do DAS or A2, your choice.
You've said that you've been riding since at least 16 and have owned an illegally derestricted TZR125, whether your claim of 105mph is from personal experience, I can't say.
You've told us that you've just aced a theory test.
Yet you still say you're remaining on a 125 for "practice"... how much practice does somebody need? I was riding abit under a year on a 50cc ped and 6 months on a geared 125 before doing my test and I pissed it at 17 with no real tuition.
alternatively you can buy another illegally derestricted 2t (although even if it is restricted, it should do what you're asking from it at 15bhp), forget about how much you can or can't pose on it and choose safety over style. ____________________ 57 Huoniao HN125-8 - , 97 Kawasaki GPZ500S -
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 18 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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