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Posted: 22:05 - 13 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Does it start ok from cold?
To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most of the carbed bikes I've ever owned needed a tiny amount of throttle to make them start. Never really bothered me.
I'd only really worry if you have to hold it at full throttle to start it. ____________________ My Flickr |
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Posted: 12:03 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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It starts great from cold, fires straight up on full choke and quickly settles with no choke.
I dont know wether this is relevant but i've only really noticed it do it, if the bike has been idling then turned off, then re-started after a short time.
I'll have to give the bike a good run, then try it. Havent had it very long you see.
It may just be the way it is (hopefully), ive not had an IL4 before.
Cheers, Ant ____________________ 1980 Suzuki TS50 ~ 1984 Honda CB400N ~ 1992 Triumph Trident ~ 1998 Suzuki Bandit 1200 |
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Posted: 14:19 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Yeah, its not a massive amount of throttle. Just a little blip really.
The bike has been stood some time, but has had carb work (apparently ), and when i got it - it was popping at idle, but the idle was a steady and smooth 1200 rpm as it advises in haynes manual.
However, ive done a good few miles on it over the weekend and all of a sudden it stopped popping BUT when i went out on the bike, as the bike warmed up the idle speed increased from around 1400 rpm fluctuating to 2000 rpm.
I got home and it was idling at 2k (40odd mile journey so plenty warm)
Wouldnt drop despite cooling down a little, so i dropped the idle screw to 1200 again.
Took her out again for around 10 miles and no problems, but i havent tried again since then (at work now)... will try tonight though and see if its any better.
Im not sure wether this makes sense and/or is possible but could the popping been the bike needing a good ride/blow out, and now its stopped the idle has somehow increased (adjusted in first place to compensate for popping maybe, idk?) and then required a little bit of adjustment.
Anyway, i'll take her out tonight and see what happens. Cheers for the help!
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Posted: 14:34 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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I'd say smooth - the tacho seems to stray but only a very small flicker. Will rev smoothly from idle no hesitation.
I've got a carb balancer so i will do that, and chuck some redex in aswell cant hurt.
I wonder if its worth draining the float bowls off and re-filling or not?
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Posted: 14:39 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Okay that sounds good.
Make sure you run the fuel cleaner through first though, as if there is any debris in the jets you idle will be lumpy after its gone through like I didn't do
I stuck a whole bottle in 1 tank on the fazer, even though it said not to. Made a world of difference!
You could try draining the bowls, might be worth a shot hoping that it will take any small particles out. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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Posted: 14:43 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Ok great - thanks! I'll pick a bottle up on the way home.
I'll put it in tonight and ride around on it until the weekend when i can get to work on it and balance the carbs etc. But hopefully might even see a difference by then.
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Posted: 14:51 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Hi
My first thoughts with a bike being a pain to start without some throttle from hot after sitting for a few minutes would be fuel vapourisation (but not sure the Bandit has any issue with this - was a pain with twin choke Webers on a car though) or that a needle valve is sticking open and flooding the bike a little when parked up (can only flood a little at the vacuum fuel tap won't allow fuel to flow with the engine running, so just the small amount sat in the fuel lines).
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Posted: 16:37 - 17 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Hi guys, I put the redex in and drained off the carbs - i also checked the air filter.
I found that theres a K&N lifetime filter in there, so im guessing that along with the akra can it would need upjetting. Im not sure if it has been or not
... But what i do know is that it makes a regular and frequent popping noise at idle.
Could the bike be running too lean do you think? Is it worth me buying a standard air filter for it?
Also, with the hard starting, i also bought some new plugs and now it seems to be bang on. Its just this bloody popping that is getting on my nerves now and slow speed riding isnt as smooth as it should be i dont think, it kind of stutters along and then shoots off as i increase the revs.
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Posted: 17:00 - 17 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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What colour were the plugs when you pulled them?
You are ideally looking for a tan/light brown.
White would signal trouble, black would be running rich.
Concerned if they are white, black is ok I guess, wasting fuel.. but not harming the engine as much as a white plug will..
Does it pop if you say, rag it in 2nd and close the throttle? |
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Posted: 18:34 - 17 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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The centres were pretty white/greyish.
This leads to lean running yeah? I think i'll stick a standard air filter in and hope for the best. Dont want to do any damage
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 1 day ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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