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I wasn't specifically interested in racing right now because I know I don't have the skill.
I still think the racing team (of EXPERIENCED girls) is a good idea. Just not for me. Right now.
I just got narked cos of the arrogant attitude shown at the start of the thread. So I took the bait *grin* and ran with it.
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Hi
Ladies race team? Given that they will probably be starting at a club level then that is no different to most other teams. At that level a "team" is not someone trying to sort out the best rider they can, more likely a rider trying to make themselves look professional so that they can get sponsorship.
However racing is very competitive. If you had any concerns at all about being cut up on a track day then you are going to get torn to pieces in a real race.
There are some good and fast female racers. Have been one or 2 in grand prix racing. But thinking you are fast is a very different thing to being fast.
All the best
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For the benefit of Hellkat can I just clear up my view on all this, and attempt to haul the topic back on track
No-one is saying girls shouldn't be racing. The only concerns I have are with creating an 'all-girls' bike team and using the whole gender issue as a marketing tool. Whilst it will indeed create publicity, we should all be aware that this publicity can just as easily turn against you very, very quickly. Girls already in racing have a hard enough time as it is, without 'Team-bikegirl' prancing around boasting about how they'll "beat the boys" at their own game etc etc. I'm guessing the media etc will then be scrutinizing every female racer even more closely than they are already - something the other female racers may have issues with to be honest. For years, female racers have tried to remove the stigma of girls in the racing environment, and if you do fail at this project - all you will do is undo years of hard work and effort on their part.
Sorry if this sounds patronising or offensive in any way but please believe that I do think girls are just as entitled to race as men. I just believe the last thing they need now is someone coming in and playing the gender card for their own gains.
I also believe that if you are a racer then you will want to overtake the bike infront just as much whether the rider is male or female. The whole "lets beat the boys" thing is so off the mark it's unreal. A racer will just want to win, regardless of who they beat.
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IMO girls are generally not as quick as men, I blame lack of ego However, if a girl finds she's doing well in the fast group at track days and keeping up / beating the faster guys, then she should give racing a go.
If she does well enough, she'll get sponsorship / kudos on her own merit, not just coz she's a girl.
It's tougher for girls to be taken seriously as historically motor racing has been a men's sport, so for a woman to give it a go, she HAS to be fast or will just get laughed at.
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When I started this thread I had no intention of it being a sexism issue. I expected a few comments but not quite such an outcry.
To be honest I don't see what the fuss is all about. So I want to get more girls into racing. How is that sexist? I've read the arguements but none have really been much more than "but you're being sexist" which is not my intention.
Yes I will make the most of it as a marketing too. So what? It doesn't harm existing female racers, in fact I'm in talks with some to bring them into Team Bikegirl if this works. They want in because higher media exposure = more sponsorship. If I can get money and coverage for it and all the women can benefit then great. And I fully intend to. ____________________ www.bikegirl.co.uk |
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Just looking at your website, no offence but the page about "come join us" makes it sound like anyone can go racing, sounds like a-b-c, 123 my first race type stuff... never knew getting into racing was as easy as owning a bike!
Also marjay is right you do have a chip on your shoulder..
| bikegirl website wrote: | Why do all those track days?
Blokes are there to be beaten. They hate being passed on the track, oh yes, makes them feel the need to explain how rubbish their tyres are / they were just cruising for a bit / wanted to watch a bird's arse. So us girls are duty bound to stick it to 'em. Erm, there are other reasons... I'll think of some soon. |
No mention to the fact it's fun, challenging your own limits and so on.. it's all "gotta beat the blokes and be better.."
Your website is very well designed though, will say that
And on the front page..
| bikegirl website wrote: | You can join Team Bikegirl whether you've raced before or not, and even if you haven't yet tried a track day |
Your just trying to encourage women onto track just because they can ride a bike, it'll be a shame when people realise how slow they are in club racing, and then be put off completely  ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 21 years, 77 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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