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Might be true on a bike forum, I know I wouldn't.
But then there's always the magical place that is Ebay.
As long as you know that you conscience is clear then why not? |
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Put it on ebay and say it's the wrong size and you left it too late to return or something. That makes it new, by all accounts.
I just viewed it cos I'd never heard of an Arai Signet.  |
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Its possible to drop a helmet in a protective bag or rucksack and it not show any damage on the outside, risky to buy 2nd hand imo but youve nothing to lose  ____________________ If a word is misspelled in the dictionary, how would we ever know?
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Just in case someone out there does trust me. Here are some close up pics.
www.mad-als.com/arai ____________________ Mr Pants! (Alex or Al)
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How odd!
Oops!
Sorry, my mistake!
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Pants, what camera do you have mate?? It's amazingly good quality... I got a Sony DSC-P10 5 MP camera a few months back but a remotely decent quality picture is a rarity.. stupidly annoying for £300 when there are probably so much better cameras out there.. I take it yours was very expensive? ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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You should have taken this pic
https://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/02/62/93/11_1.JPG
while standing in the buff. Like that guy and his kettle.
By the way Slavo, it says small in big bold letters at the top of the description.  |
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I'll buy the iridium visor off you if you want to sell it. as long as it fits Astro J, looks like it does. |
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YamsR6,
Thanks
I have a Nikon D70, it is an entry level digital SLR, with lens around £1000, you can get them cheaper online. The really good digital SLRS start around £1500 upwards.
I actually reduced the quality of them for web use, the originals are perfect.
Bendy,
LMAO! Yes, I never thought of that. The front shot I used Photoshop to dust out my reflection, but I left it on the back one.
Next time I will be naked in the reflection, it may help sell the item. ____________________ Mr Pants! (Alex or Al)
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I also have a Canon S50, similar spec to your camera, I have got some blinding shots with that.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008R9NV/qid=1094809366/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/026-3128614-9230052
These are ones I took with my S50:
https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and18.htm a bit blurred, but not bad. I set the shutter speed quick for this one
https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and23.htm out of a car window, I was driving and just holding it out the window backwards and pressing like mad. I set the shutter speed quick for this one
https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and7.htm
https://www.mad-als.com/andy/pages/and21.htm
Don't get my wrong here, I am pants at photography, but I am willing to learn. Maybe the lack of quality is more user error than crap camera if you know what I mean. Try different settings, other than auto and see what you can do. 5mp is very good quality, my really good camera is only 6.1mp. I know there is more to quality than just MP, component CCD quality, lens quality etc etc. But that Sony you have looks pretty good to me.
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I think it is time to RTFM
Your pics look pretty good to me.
Okay, looked at your camera on Amazon, it looks like you can set the shutter speed, ISO and aperture manually. This is going to be tucked away in a menu somewhere unless you have an S on your wheel on top of the camera where the "Action" setting is.
You need to find out how to put it in "Shutter Priority Mode" this means that the camera will take care of the aperture for you. If not, go for the manual mode and you will have to do aperture yourself
For moving objects like bikes, you need a faster shutter speed, you camera can go as fast as 1/2000 of a second, to think that my clearest action shot I managed to get a Silverstone was 1/250 of a second, you have plenty to play with. Looking at your pics, the bikes are not going to be doing any where near the speed of the Silverstone bikes.
Problem with fast shutter speed is you do get a reduction in light, so that has to be compensated. To do this you need to change your film ISO. Yours ranges from 100 - 400 ISO. You will want 400 for faster shots. If you had film, a 400 ISO film would be more sensitive to light than a 100 ISO so it needs less exposure time.
Your Aperture ranges from 2.8 - 5.6, as I said, in the shutter priority mode the aperture will take care of itself.
Another tip I learnt with my S50, I tried to hardly ever use the zoom, it is just not good enough quality to do that, so I would try to get myself as close to the action as I could. That one with Andy with his knee down was literally just missing my shoulder when he passed me. On one take I thought he was going to clip me! Another point I should add is I took about 40 - 50 photos that day and I only walked away with a couple of good ones and I would say that the ones I was happy with are fairly dark and dull in the colour area as well. But I am still pleased with them.
Take loads and loads of pics, keep changing the settings, I wish I had moved my shutter speed much faster at Silverstone, I am sure I could have got them really sharp. Only thing is, when you are taking an action shot, it is nice to not go too fast on shutter speed so there is a bit of background blurring as you track the moving object, it gives a sensation of massive speed.
The first is with my D70 and the second is the S50, the first one looks really really fast, well it is, but that is portrayed in the picture.
https://www.mad-als.com/photos/slv/slv1.jpg
This one Steve is going about 80 mph, yet he looks like he is hardly moving as the background is too fixed because I had the shutter speed way too fast:
https://www.mad-als.com/steve/pages/stv5.htm
To be honest buddy, I am a complete novice, I have done a bit of digging on the web and gone out and played with the camera. I have stood on motorway bridges taking photos of cars as they go under seeing what effects I can do and learning at the same time.
If there is anything I have said wrong above, anyone, please feel free to correct me or add any comments, more knowledge the better!  ____________________ Mr Pants! (Alex or Al)
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That's very helpful actually Mr Pants!
I now know what sort of settings I need to get decent pictures, just need to find out how to change them
Manual time
I like your second example picture, that's the kind of pictures I like, it looks very "cool" - I especially like the pictures that track day photographers take, as they seem to make even crap people look really good... I think it's because of the fast shutter speed and bright picture quality like yours
I'll have another play I guess, if I don't get anything good then I might look to a Digital SLR if they do a cheaper one
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Canon EOS300D would have been my second choice, I believe they are slowly approaching the £600 mark if you do a bit of digging online. Make sure you get on with a lens though, you can buy the body only.
Good luck buddy, thanks for the compliments on my very average photos My head is all big now.  ____________________ Mr Pants! (Alex or Al)
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 Sparks! Sir Tart-a-lot

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£600
I might keep my eyes open for a second hand digital SLR of some kind but not for a longgg while yet, got other things I need..
Will definetly RTFM and see if I can get some better quality pictures from my Sony though!
Thanks again for the advice, I've replied to your PM and will get back to you when I hear from the organiser of the track day, it'll hopefully be a and if it is, then you get to do go-karting and wheely practice etc too  ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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