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95Theses
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 30 Jul 2011    Post subject: The Red Mist - How do you stop it? Reply with quote

Coming back up from Bromley into London I was in the inside lane down to a set of lights. A silver focus overtook me on the right and then violently moved into my lane. I slammed on the brakes and remember vividly the rear bumper missing my front wheel by a couple of inches.

I pulled up to her right window and tapped my helmet giving it the 'You need to use your eye's love I was inches away from getting wiped out there' She looked at me and then looked out of her sunroof and waved me on with the back of her right hand as if she was the fucking queen.

I lost it, punching her window, calling her a fucking cunt, I reached for her mirror to rip it off and she looked at me in terror and I realised I'd made my point, but I was literally about to rip her wing mirror off.

How do you all deal with this? Tell me how to not lose my rag!
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 30 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carry this picture from the clip around?

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PostPosted: 21:35 - 30 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno

Scared me a bit. I've generally got a good handle on my temper but I proper lost it today.

I think it was because I was so fucking close to getting wiped out and I was on edge, but I scared myself with how aggresive I was after she had dismissed me out of hand with the back of her hand.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 30 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with the anger, it's good.

I had a similar experience a few years ago with a BMW driver - he very nearly took me out, and when i stopped to have a (initially polite) word with him at a set of lights he gave me the dismissive wave.

I completely lost it at that point, and when he wouldn't get out of his car to have a square go, it cost him his mirror (because it was the nearest thing to hand).

I would like to think he might be a bit more observant in the future, but based upon his condescending and dismissive wave, i'm inclined to think that he was just an arrogant and self-obsessed wanker.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 30 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
it cost him his mirror (because it was the nearest thing to hand).

mistergixer wrote:
I would like to think he might be a bit more observant in the future
With only one wing mirror left on his car? Doubt it. Doh!
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 30 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to Lose The Plot till the following happened:

(1) During one of my early volcanic episodes including verbal abuse, a van driver got out of his van, pushed me into the oncoming traffic and then when I went to kick his van, he drove it at me.

(2) I got off the bike once at a set of temporary traffic lights, giving it large with the handwaving and fishwifery at a mini cab driver who had cut me up, but whilst I was shouting at him to get out of the car, he took the initiative and ...... just drove around my bike and scarpered off away down the A13.

On both occasions I felt both stupid and endangered by my own actions.

So I've learnt to calm down and be Coldly Angry and glare in a slightly menacing style. I've found that parking beside their window (or in front of them if they refuse to let you catch their eye) and then giving it the slow head-turn and stare actually works better than Miss Fisticuffs mode.

If I can keep their attention long enough, mouthing the words "You fvcking w@nker" also seems to bring the subject to a mutually understandable point.

Then I let them take the initiative. Its their choice! Wink

"Did she say what I think she just said?"
"I don't know, mate, I couldn't hear what she said ..."

I didn't say anything, officer. He cut me up, I pulled up at the lights and ignored him ... and then he chased me down the road for no apparent reason . . .
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good idea to lose it occasionally. The more scared the cager is the better. It means they're less likely to risk a biker's life in the future if they think they might not get away with it.

A lot of cagers treat motorcyclists as a nuisance to be swatted away like a fly.
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

After 45 years riding, I have calmed down, try blood pressure tablets.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it cost him his mirror (because it was the nearest thing to hand)


Might not replace that. Just the plastic cover on mine was ~£30 but another £70 odd to get it painted to the same colour as the car, it'd have looked odd otherwise. Thats on an E46 330ci.

I reckon with the motors and other bits it'd be £200-300 to replace the entire mirror unit.

Still, if he hadn't been a tosser. It just seems to come natural to some though. I wanted to tear a mirror off the other day but thought better of it because they'd already nearly hit me at 70MPH so doing that next to them seemed a little too daring!
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

nighthawk250 wrote:
After 45 years riding, I have calmed down, try blood pressure tablets.


Must be why i have calmed down, the blood pressure tablets Laughing

Can't be arsed with the hassle anymore. I expect EVERY car driver to be out to kill me now. So the ones that don't or let me past and on my way are a bonus Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with that, but the least they can do when they nearly kill you is at least apologise instead of waving you on like you are an insignificance.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

After crashing with a car in a red mist situation I stick with filtering past them and giving them the middle finger salute
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to calm down whilst riding a bike just remember how vunerable you are and how easy to squish you are on a bike.
You may drag him out of his motor and give him a smack for being such a dangerous twat, but that may just make him even madder and his weapon of choice will weigh about a ton and easily squash you Shocked .
Also remember you dont know diddly about this idiot or what they have hidden in thier motor waiting to inflict pain and hurt upon you Sad .

Me, I`ve got a black belt in running away Smile and can ride away from the best of them Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh.. The day in the life of a biker.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always believed that you lose the moral high ground if you flip out and start damaging other people's cars. I think a shake of the head or a sound of the horn makes the point without making you look like a muppet.

You can guarantee that if the cops were called, you'd be the one who gets in trouble for ripping their mirror off. Not them for their stupid driving.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been abit naughty in the past but have found i'm quite chilled on the bike..apart from punching a telecoms engineer..he deserved it tho as he'd left a cable strung across the road.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What other option is there when you've just been parred by some stupid bitch in a car after she nearly killed you? You should've ripped her mirror off, smashed her window and made her eat it. No leniency for car driving bell ends that nearly kill me Hand
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ignore it follow her for a little while till you can over take her ...overtake taking her mirror off with your foot LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old boss once told me 'never lose your temper, coz when you lose your temper, you've lost control and once you've lost control - you've lose everything'. Easy for him to say when he hasn't had a close-encounter with a transit door pillar but in the main it holds true.

I doubt there's a single bike rider out there who'se never wanted to punch a driver's face in, or smash up their car, it's caused by the fear reaction and subsequent rush of adrenaline. It get's less as you get older & more experienced. The downside of abusing car drivers are that they'll retaliate against another biker, perhaps every one they see from now on.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a couple of moments of where I wanted to rip off of mirrors. One where I got beside the woman and shouted at her for a few minutes holding up traffic.

The worst was where an idiot overtook a horse box around a blind corner with me coming the other way, managed to slam on my brakes and get to the left. I tried to turn around and by the time I had I'd managed to calm down, so just carried on. Don't even know what I would have done if I caught up with him Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: The Red Mist - How do you stop it? Reply with quote

95Theses wrote:


How do you all deal with this? Tell me how to not lose my rag!


Isnt the answer your looking for on here obvious?
You should of punched her in the tits and did her up the gary! Wink
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ride alongside them revving the nuts off the bike, not only is it loud and annoying there is nothing they can do about it.

Either than or getting in front and just slowing riiiiiiiiiight down and moving so they can't get past, then when they are losing their rag you just give them the salute and speed away.

The main thing is to not get angry, when you are riding a motorcycle and you get angry, your riding skills suffer and that could very well lead to you having a very nasty (read: potentially fatal) accident.

At the end of the day, it's not worth it and the reason I do the above is because I find it entertaining so I can laugh whilst they pay for the dumb thing they did.

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I follow them Smile whether they go real slow to let you past after they cut you up or whatever, just follow them make a point about it too, rev the engine a little louder, and go not dangerously close but so you're always behind them.

Had an old woman push me off the road the other day turned out she was going home the same way as me, her speeds varied from 40-70+ down a dual carriage way, and she was constantly checking her mirror, going right up behind cars trying to get past and I presume away lol.

If they physically go to stop or pull over I go as if to do the same and then just speed past Smile

sometimes you just have to let it slip though, a car cut me up badly, real badly I honked and shook my head at him at which point he just hit the brakes, hard, really hard started making hand signs out of his window he was visibly angry, he genuinely didn't give a shit about bikers and wasn't about to start.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girlfriend's uncle had a run in with a biker once. He was driving along with his family and all of a sudden a biker overtook him, turned round in his seat and gave him the finger. As he did so he lost control and fell under a truck coming the opposite way. The kids in the back heard the crack as it ran over his head.

They still don't know what they did to piss him off so much.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 31 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

R6 Wilson wrote:
What other option is there when you've just been parred by some stupid bitch in a car after she nearly killed you? You should've ripped her mirror off, smashed her window and made her eat it. No leniency for car driving bell ends that nearly kill me Hand


And when she then reports it to the police......

Who is the one who is going to end up in court in serious trouble....

You have to learn to take a few deep breaths and let it wash over you.
Carry that anger on the rest of your ride and you are far more likely to end up shinny side down Sick
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