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spanish_biker79
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 14 Nov 2011    Post subject: Stolen bike:report to insurance(third party only) & DVLA Reply with quote

Hey guys,

My bike was stolen just a couple of hours ago in North London. I've just reported it to the police and wondering now if I should report it to the insurance (third party only) straight away or wait a few days/weeks to see if it gets recovered?

What about the DVLA? Should I contact them tomorrow quickly?

So annoying when these thieves go around just taking whatever they can...arhghghghhg Sad

Any advice much appreciated!! Thanks...


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PostPosted: 00:17 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont wait a few days contact them first thing in the morning mate.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mate, I will do and ask them if I need to call the DVLA as well...

So annoying to go back to commuting in public transport in London! Sad
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you report it to your insurance company if you're TPO? Or the DVLA for that matter.
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PostPosted: 03:07 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest I would get a picture posted up here straight away with another form of contact details... post that in the location settings and in this thread. Just encase anyone sees it on a ride out later.
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
Why would you report it to your insurance company if you're TPO? Or the DVLA for that matter.


That's what I thought at the beginning, but then I thought that maybe I've got some problem if I don't do it quickly and they cause an accident, or something doggy (like a robbery) besides the fact that I might need to call the insurance at some point if they don't recover it to cancel/freeze the insurance?

But I was not sure if it was a better to call straight away or wait a little...
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
To be honest I would get a picture posted up here straight away with another form of contact details... post that in the location settings and in this thread. Just encase anyone sees it on a ride out later.


Good idea, pls give me a call (07985 9159 03) or PM me if you see it around Sad

It was a green Honda Transalp as pictured below (without the top case) taken from North London at around 20.30 yesterday, not sure about why they took such an old but practical bike!

Thanks guys.

Number plate: F496 TRK

https://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/92_4/165_50/CIMG1283.jpg
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aw, gutted for you. Maybe they stole it because they had a bit of style and taste, the worthless scum.

Sadly I don't think there's a particularly good answer, but after a brief search for the bike, I'd call or email the insurer, instruct them to cancel the policy, and decline any invitation to tell them why.

This is because if it gets stacked and the policy hasn't been cancelled, there's a chance that they may be obliged to pay out to third parties and they may then be able to recover their losses from you if you've left them unreasonably exposed to risk. I stress may because it's not certain, but it's a fairly big risk to take.

T.C. would likely be able to give a more definitive answer, I'd suggest P.M.ing him. Since it's such a sadly common occurrence it might be a good one for a sticky.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

T.C. would likely be able to give a more definitive answer, I'd suggest P.M.ing him.


Thanks man, do you have a link to his user profile? Surfing from the mobile is a pain...
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very distinctive bike mate.
Whereabouts North London is it nicked from? I know some kebab guys in wood green area who can help.
I'll be all around north london today. I hope I spot your bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Around that area!, I walked around Golders Green last night, just in case they took it just to cause some inconvenience, but nothing Sad

Many thanks!!!!

I'm not expecting it to be recovered, I think they'll use it for parts! so now I'm more worried about reporting it to the insurance (with premiums going up, etc, even though I won't make a claim) or not :S
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

that'll be in eastern europe by now,
no way you are getting that back,
sorry to here about your loss

tpo ???? why?
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

spanish_biker79 wrote:
I'm not expecting it to be recovered, I think they'll use it for parts! so now I'm more worried about reporting it to the insurance (with premiums going up, etc, even though I won't make a claim) or not :S


Check your insurance policy for terms of non disclosure. If they have no non disclosure terms, your fine and happy. If they do, call them within the week.

If your bikes on the 'stolen' database, the insurance company know. My repeated bike thefts put my insurance up £50 a time despite me not claiming. I stopped reporting it to the police cause it was getting stupid.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:
that'll be in eastern europe by now,
no way you are getting that back,
sorry to here about your loss

tpo ???? why?


My last Fazer was nicked in North London (near Golders Green) and was found in Belarus......I live around there and I'll look out for it
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,

I'm now mainly concerned about what could happen if they have an accident and like Rogerborg said above, the insurance company might try to get some big money off from me?

I'll read through my policy after and see if I have some no non disclosure terms, I've never read anything about it....
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to over-alarm you, I don't think it is likely, but it is a technical possibility based on the my understanding of the statutes and the current case law.

Link to T.C.'s profile.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My apologies the police do inform the dvla but you must inform the insurance company immediately on finding it stolen no matter what the cover.
Im almost certain you can not be held responsible and if they caused any accident then the other party would have to claim through the MIB but what possible reason would u have for keeping the bike insured..

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PostPosted: 13:08 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks asking TC...

I was thinking that maybe even if you don't report it (as I won't be claiming), then they're not going to put up prices of new policies, maybe take away no-claim bonus, etc?

Annoying that you're left without the bike and then you've got a lot more problems to sort out...
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is not to take it off the insurance, as if you do get it back its more money to re-instate the insurance.

If they do crash into someone then its their problem, technically they are riding uninsured. The insurance is down to the person riding it, not the vehicle. That's how the police view it.

Sorry to hear it got nicked, my went the same way. Is it possible they nicked it for a joy ride As that's probably why as its good for off roading - they did that to mine across the fields!
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time you get insurance, you won't need to declare that your bike was stolen, because there hasn't been any loss.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you pay for the insurance in full for the year? or on a quarterly basis?
If you havnt paid in full then why keep paying for a bike you no longer own.. if you paid in full then you may be due a refund on the rest of the policy depending how long it has left to run.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:
The insurance is down to the person riding it, not the vehicle. That's how the police view it.


The law doesn't necessarily agree. The latest case law that I'm aware of is of a works van that was essentially TWOCed by a Yoof who wasn't on the list of approved drivers.

He stacked it and the insurer tried to get out of paying out to a 3rd party on the basis that you stated: that he wasn't an authorised or agreed driver. No go, they were made to pay out, partly on the grounds that they had deep pockets and the 3rd party shouldn't lose out. Now, I don't think they pursued the policy owner for recovery, but that's not to say that that they couldn't do it in future if there's an clearly identifiable and unreasonable failure to limit their liability.

It's a big stretch from there to a pikey riding a stolen bike, but the bike has an extant policy on it, I'd expect the claimant to go after that first.

Again, T.C. is your man for a more definitive answer, it's basically his job to follow the twists and turns of Their Lordships' meanderings in this area.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rogerborg and TC, I think I'll go for the better safe than sorry and will call now just in case.

TC explained a few examples of things that can get messy and I don't want to be in the position of clarifying things with an insurance company afterwards!

Much appreciated guys...
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 15 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy to help, and again, I'm sorry that you're going to be punished for being a victim. Sad

Did T.C. recommend telling them that the bike has been stolen, or just to instruct them to cancel the policy without a reason?
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