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 Posted: 18:54 - 06 Dec 2011 Post subject: Multimeters, which one? |
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So I was thinking of getting a multimeter, as it seems you can get them cheaply and will no doubt prove handy at some point. More so I want to be able to check the voltage (and thus condition) of my bike and car batteries.
But a quick look on ebay brings up squillions of the things... What am I actually looking for in a multimeter? I'd rather avoid the cheapest one that come from China or Hong Kong, too much potential bullshit with poor quality stuff.
So what should I get? Links much appreciated please! ____________________
'06 Honda CBR125RW-6 ~ '00 Honda CBR600F-Y ~ '07 Honda CBR600RR-7 ~ Bikeless
'53 Ford Ka 1.3 ~ '03 Vauxhall Astra SRi 1.8 ~ '52 Vauxhall Astra SRi 2.2 ~ '53 Vauxhall Astra GSi |
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Spend around £20 on one, good idea to get one with a rubber case, there's many a time mine has ended up hitting the floor (but that's what happens when you leave them perched precariously when the engines running )
As you say there is a staggering amount available and the chances are you will only ever use its volt, resistance and occasionally amps function, so there's little point spending £70+ on one. ____________________ XX XXXx
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I have had a few over the years; I rate analogue over digital any day of the week, they are easier to reed, and voltage functions still work even if battery is flat.
Covers most working ranges required, and intuative and simple. Seen far too many people get expensive meters with gazillions of functions that have shunts and probes for measuing high amps or high volts ignition timing, even checking engine speed to calibrate tacho's, with a manual thicker than Windows 7..... seldom used, as functions not that necessary, and even when they may be useful, operators have frequently struggled to even find relevent chapter in the book, let alone follow it!
This is the one I have; Draper pocket multimeter.
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqJ,!g4E1e5V9wL3BNgkUP10Lg~~0_1.JPG
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAPER-POCKET-ANALOGUE-MULTIMETER-/400217688903?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D270836198493%26ps%3D54
Available at most motorfactors; tool shops; hardware stores; e-bay for anything from £8 - £18....
Some of the ranges are less than convenient; most used for bikes cars is 0-25v so you only get about half full scale deflection for normal volts, but small gripe. Does AC & DC up to 250v so you can test mains supply, or PC's and stuff.
Cheap, versatile, useful. If its a starting point; its not a bad one.
Only gripe I have with mine, as with all multi-meters is the test probes; these have daft spring loaded plugs to go in the meter, that can 'pop-out'. But twist the sleeve thats sprung to lock them they stay put fair enough.
Also a pop rivet shaft fits the socket..... get a bit of spare wire, solder a corcadile clip on the end, wrap other end areound pop-rivet shaft and solder, you have a test lead to clip to known earth for buzzing out.
You can make up any number of test leads in this way... I have one with a veriety of common connector ends; male & female lucar's and bullets, to plug into connectors or connector blocks when testing..
You dont HAVE to use the test probes they supply!
Pretty robust too; but cheap enough it doesn't matter too much if it gets driven over! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
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Yeah that one will do you fine.
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Both are fine, similar to the ones I've used for years. But Teflon has got me thinking about the older analogue ones with flicky up and down needles, always thought the old VU meters an stereos looked good as well...... think I'm getting old  ____________________ XX XXXx
Previous: CG125,XS250 (converted to 400),Z250A, GPZ550, Norton Commando, XS500, 78 Laverda Jota, GPZ1100,Harris bonneville, XV750 (mono shock),TR1 |
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MickC wrote: | But Teflon has got me thinking about the older analogue ones with flicky up and down needles, always thought the old VU meters an stereos looked good as well...... think I'm getting old  |
If you are buzzing out, you are looking for needle movement, not necesserily a specific number; Analogue needle, tells you quickly, what you want to know.
But when you do want an accurate number; needle goes up and may hover a little, but you can tell as it swings what the limits are and guestimate the nominal.
Digital meters; can get confused by a slightly fluctuating voltage and while they decide not give any meaningful reading.
LCD displays are also made of glass and crack.
Analogue needle, swings over a plastic back screen under a clear plastic cover... they tend to be a tad more robust (I have found!) and even completely trashed, they can still 'work' (with a certain sceptasism over accuracy!)
It may be old fasioned and rather luddite to members of the play-station generation.... but they work, and they work well! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Yup, cheap and cheerful will do you for bike use. Audible continuity is ace. Don't buy more functionality than you need. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Identical to mine, didn't pay that much for it though. Mine was from Amazon about a year ago, paid £12 something.
This one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0001K9XKW
Audible continuity which is useful . |
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I have this and covers everything I need for it apart from tacho measuring.
On offer at Maplin for a fiver, had mine for about 6 years now and used heavily so its pretty good and comes with a rubber case.
https://www.maplin.co.uk/domestic-multimeter-37279 |
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So now that I've got this doodad, how do I use it?
I've plugged the black lead into the COM port and the red lead into the VΩmA port like the instructions say for testing DC voltage. I've turned the dial to "20" for (what I think) is DC volts. But when i touch the battery terminals, nothing happens at all. Tried it on my bike battery which is in the house and so disconnected from anything, and also on my car battery which is connected to the car. (With ignition on and off).
But nothing. What am I doing wrong?
EDIT: Nvm, it's just being a twat. I've tried it again just a second after i posted this and it's working fine now. Dunno why. ____________________
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The blue rubber bit around the outside stops the plugs going in fully if you position them wrong. Turn them until they don't foul on the rubber and it shouldn't happen . |
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I'm with Teflon on the analogue thing. Especially if you have a points ignition bike like I do. You can see the needle deflecting as the points start to come together.
Some multimeters will come rated for a much more substantial range of current than others. You can't do much useful in terms of electrical currents with a 1A rating, that's pretty much in the range of electronics rather than electrics. Some meters come rated up to 10A which, if you're sensible where and when you use it, can actually be a handy function for motorcycle electrics.
You can get surprisingly cheap analogue ones too, virtually disposable.
I use a cheap analogue one for electrics and a more expensive digital one for electronics. I actually have a seperate analogue ammeter rated up to 30A. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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