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SheldonCOOPER_BBT
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Bit of advice please. Reply with quote

How should i go along with this.

Im buying a bike this month which is a tad bit over my budget. So other things like gear/insurance/cbt will have to be covered by next month pay.

So if i purchase the bike were could i store it? as i live in a flat so obviously there is no garage and since the bike is not insured i can not leave it on the road.

What would you do in my situation? Is it possible to pay dealership or some other company to store my bike so i could be covered by things llike theft etc?
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Derivative
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice would be to not buy the bike until you can afford to run it.

In fact, if you're so short you can't even afford insurance I wouldn't buy it for two months.

Either that, or buy something you can afford.
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Matt578
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try a self storage type place, But you would still have to get it there without riding it.
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Derivative
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The concept just seems a bit odd, unless it's an insanely good deal, why not look for something else? A month will bring up a fair few new bikes to look at, no need to fixate.
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HJM
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait till you can afford to run it and insure it until you buy it. If it gets nicked and your not insured (assuming your going to get TPFT) you fu@ked!

Like said, unless its a bloody amazing deal (let us know what the deal is), wait a month, something else WILL come up in that time!

Why not buy your gear and cbt this month and then all you need to do is buy the bike?
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covering your PM as well: you'll have a lot more fun on a YBR/CG/EN or whatever you can afford to buy, insure and ride right now than on a YZF R125 that will do nothing except depreciate, fall over and/or get nicked while you scrimp up enough to get it on the road.

A 125 is a cheap commuter or a route to your license, it's not an aspirational bike that you should stretch to afford.
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Derivative
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
it's not an aspirational bike that you should stretch to afford.


I think I'd go further and say your first bike should never be something you should stretch to afford (unless it's already at the bottom of the budget range and you just can't live without one).

Regardless of whether it's a 125 or you see it as temporary.

It's going to get dropped, you'll be using it to learn maintenance, it's likely going to have less power than you want to end up with, it's likely to cost less than your 'ideal bike' anyway (I can't afford a decent Street Triple though I can see myself on one at some point, for example).

Just get something cheap and crap.
It is the first stepping stone of many on your journey.


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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Covering your PM as well: you'll have a lot more fun on a YBR/CG/EN or whatever you can afford to buy, insure and ride right now than on a YZF R125 that will do nothing except depreciate, fall over and/or get nicked while you scrimp up enough to get it on the road.

A 125 is a cheap commuter or a route to your license, it's not an aspirational bike that you should stretch to afford.


You're kidding me!

We've gone around teh Gilera ring a few times; he makes ludicrouse comment about liking 125's becous ethey only get nicked by 'kids' then goes and picks one that is targeted specifically by 'Pros' for the breaking market, and wants to know where to keep it without insurance!?!?!?

SHELDON!

You have 29 weeks to get a licence worth having with a 125, and you seem absolutely DETURMINED to go out of your fucking way to FIND problems!

WHY?!?

WHY are you looking at 'silly' bikes that you cant afford?

And MAKING hassle for yourself to make life even harder and waste EVEN more of the preciouse little time you have to get a licence?!?!?!

Meanwhile, in previouse post you said you had DONE your CBT.... now you need next months pay-packet to pay for it?!?!

What is going on? Something dont add up?!?!

Maybe its the gap in our respective realities.....

BUT?!?!?!?

Actually, sod it... whats the point in typing..... you dont take heed of anything you are told...
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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second thoughts...

Dont worry about insurance... you'll be buying third-party only in the end anyway, becouse you wont be able to afford much more, and even if you did, chances are it would have such wopping XS as to make it worth only TPO.... so its no different to leaving it out-side in full view when you have insurance.

125's only get nicked by 'kids'... but it LOOKs like a 'big-bike' so they will leave it alone, wont they?

And it has an ignition lock and steering lock, that should do the trick!

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Just park it outside, IT'LL BE FINE Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, you made tef angry! Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people are sponges, and absorb all the information one gives.....Others are rocks, and the knowledge and guidance you give, just fucks off like water of a ducks back.

This guy was clearly looking for an answer to his question, he is not interested in help form the more experienced fo, this man.......

is a ROCK.

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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

brewer wrote:
wow, you made tef angry! Shocked


No... just stunned.... like I have been hit over the head with a rock Rolling Eyes

Chap lives in Sarf-Landan.... without off-street parking, cant afford insurance, but prioritises buying THE most ridiculous, over-priced, magpie-magnet, he can NOT afford, above, anything else!

What for? Becouse it LOOKS like his idea of what a bike should, and bollox to any-one that suggest its a 'silly' idea.

Its true what they say; make something idiot-proof, they build a better idiot to test it!
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have all been guilty of not listening to the more experienced at one time or another Laughing just means this chap is going to learn things as most of us did, the hard way! Good luck with that man!
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_matt
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

this thread made me lol

I dunno about you guys, but i trashed my first 2 small (125cc) bikes. the first one was dropped more times than i'd care to admit and ended up going down the road sidewaysa couple times, and the 2nd, well, thats in bits on my back yard with a ruined swingarm and half an engine.
Wish people would just understand that if its your first bike you will trash it or bin it or just outright kill it due to inexperience, every rider i've known has abused their first (or first couple) of bikes so there's really no sense in paying more than maybe £800 for one or buying new, cos you'll just ruin it
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BusySam
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_matt wrote:
this thread made me lol

I dunno about you guys, but i trashed my first 2 small (125cc) bikes. the first one was dropped more times than i'd care to admit and ended up going down the road sidewaysa couple times, and the 2nd, well, thats in bits on my back yard with a ruined swingarm and half an engine.
Wish people would just understand that if its your first bike you will trash it or bin it or just outright kill it due to inexperience, every rider i've known has abused their first (or first couple) of bikes so there's really no sense in paying more than maybe £800 for one or buying new, cos you'll just ruin it


Can vouch on the ruining ofmfirst bikes, had an rs50 which I dropped a fair few times, god I even cracked the fairings getting it into my garden, twicem Embarassed

To op, take these guys advice on getting a cheap and cheerful bike to start with, I was looking at getting a pretty 125 but after many of these, including tef haha, have drilled it in that it's just not worth it. I waste my money now on a silly little bike or get my test done and get myself a nice 600.. I know what I'd rather and what I am doing
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