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at106
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: What to do with money? Reply with quote

I'm 17 and i've recently started a 4 year apprenticeship, i live at home so don't have to pay much rent! I should earn £719 per month after tax and other stuff and i plan to save as much of it as possible. So where should i put it?

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PostPosted: 22:12 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invest it in Nobcat IT.

Belive me, you wont save it. You will discover what your penis is for, alcohol and motorbikes.
You will spunk the lot.

I know. I did.

Best 4 years of my life.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

put it in a ISA or something and forget about it for a year or until you hit the balance limit.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairplay if you can save.

I did far more interesting stuff like spunk it on bikes. What's the point of being your old mans age and regretting that you should of done this or that.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Fisty and drzsta, go and buy loads of expensive fast shit and have an awesome time.




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PostPosted: 22:26 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna counter the words of the other people.....

If you can save half (or more) of your wage every month, then do it. There'll come a time when you want to do something/buy something or whatever, and having those savings will be the most awesome bonus ever.

If you don't get the urge to waste all your money on booze and shit, then don't.

In a couple of years you could be care free, travelling the world for a year or more, all off your savings!
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as i'd love more bikes i don't have the space Sad

An ISA sounds like a good idea so i'll get a bit more info on them Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

at106 wrote:
As much as i'd love more bikes i don't have the space Sad


I do.

Put 2 years of those savings into a BMW S1000R and you are more than welcome to leave it at mine. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:25 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisty wrote:
Invest it in Nobcat IT.

Belive me, you wont save it. You will discover what your penis is for, alcohol and motorbikes.
You will spunk the lot.

I know. I did.

Best 4 years of my life.


Chasing tail can be expensive. Laughing

I look on my FB at some ex's though, the shit lives they seem to be living and wonder why I ever bothered, I think the money would have been better spent elsewhere.


Though to echo others, perhaps try saving a bit. Tip - If you arent used to the money its easier to just put say 150 aside into a seperate account each month. This way youll never miss it.

or perhaps start off with 100 per month and each time you get a pay rise add 1/3 of the rise to the savings amount, By the time you are 21 you could easily have 6k and well paid work after apprentiship and buy something really nice.

Cash drops underwear like nothing else lol (or perhaps that is just relfective of the sluts round my home town...)

If you spend a few months pissing away the whole lot then try to save youll never do it.
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PostPosted: 04:29 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a ballpark....


If you put £150 a month into a pension, but the time you retire that alone will give you an income of ~£800 a month.


When I was 17 there was no way on earth I was interested in saving money, I wanted to spend every bit that I could on bikes, drink and girls.


But... The sooner you start a pension the bigger it is and earlier you can retire/ cut down on working and concentrate on bikes, drink and girls Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy yourself yes, but put it in to an investment with like 10 year growth. Don't waste it on women: that is a total waste. The ones that are worthwhile wont be after money anyway. Then you will a deposit for a house when its time to settle down. Then instead of young girls out for cash you will have them after your assets to raise a family lol! And divorcing you to take the house and kids lol!

The reason people can't buy homes today is they don't start young when they have few expenses.

Perhaps in 5 years you choose to go and study. You will have savings to tap in to
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save every penny and that's £8.5K a year x 4 years = £34K. That might be enough for the deposit on a bedsit with chalk outline still on the floor.

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PostPosted: 11:02 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Save every penny and that's £8.5K a year x 4 years = £34K. That might be enough for the deposit on a bedsit with chalk outline still on the floor.

Oi, 'ave a banana. Dance!


Doesnt work like that. If you invest the money grows, and your rate of savings goes up as your salary increases.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would save 25% again if I was 17 again. I put my money into a savings account my mum opened in my name. It stopped me blowing the cash on shit, kept it away from the prying eyes of the state and I had a pretty good time spending the other 75%. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joncrete Cungle wrote:
I would save 25% again if I was 17 again. I put my money into a savings account my mum opened in my name. It stopped me blowing the cash on shit, kept it away from the prying eyes of the state and I had a pretty good time spending the other 75%. Wink


At 14 when my mother realised I was saving money, she started charging me rent to relieve me of it. Not that she was paying for housing, my dad was the bread winner. I guess she figured a man being relieved of his money was good life experience. She later would tell me if I sleep with women keep my wallet under my pillow. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invest in yourself.

Do your driving test if you haven't already done so, it makes you much more employable and with the rate the test fees are going up, you'll be getting a better return on your money than any savings scheme.
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dex wrote:

If you put £150 a month into a pension, but the time you retire that alone will give you an income of ~£800 a month.



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PostPosted: 13:48 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Dex wrote:

If you put £150 a month into a pension, but the time you retire that alone will give you an income of ~£800 a month.



Laughing just Laughing


When you start your your pension makes a huge difference at where you end up. Mine is well over 2 million and will be over 6 million when i retire. I can either do it and retire in comfort, all spend all my money now and eat pap and dogfood like some darkie in a mud hut. Which would you prefer?

It is invested in various countries so i can retire anywhere.

In addition, retirement contributions are tax free. So in essence investing them I double my moeny before any growth. I can invest R1 for later, or take home R0.5 now. So before any interest and investment growth, my money has already doubled, or see it another way, has reduced my payment to government.

Other savings i send off shore to save on capital gains tax. Again, it is a huge increase in the value of that money instead of spending it today.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.getrichslowly.org recommend a balanced split of 50% needs, 30% wants and 20% savings. You don't have many needs so you should follow the split but increase your wants and savings.

Lets say you spend £100 on board (your parents will appreciate it even if it's a small amount). At least £100 on getting to work and the odd lunch. Leaves about £500. Split that £300 on whatever the hell you like and £200 into savings.

I'd put £100 into something a bit speculative - stocks and shares ISA probably and £100 into something easy access and safe (standard savings account).

Many people forget the balance - you want to enjoy yourself otherwise it's pointless but you also need to tuck something away. Even if it's just for a deposit on a rental. Depending on where you live nearly £9.6k (4years of £200) could be a decent deposit on a small place of your own too!
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you don't have any outgoing at all?

It will be spent, oh yes, it will be spent. I couldn't live off that even living at my mums.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
And you don't have any outgoing at all?

It will be spent, oh yes, it will be spent. I couldn't live off that even living at my mums.


what is your mom's email? I will have to suggest to her that other moms charge rent and she can spend money on clothes, facials, spas, perfumes etc if she milked you for a few hundred each month Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe for South Africa. But traditional pensions in the UK pensions are generally a scam. I learned the hard way, paying into it and few years later the fund was worth less than I'd put in. Hell you might get bob Maxwell'd


There are all sorts of fees and charges that pummel your pension fund even more. Pile ont he bad stock market and constant devaluing of quids. And the thing you were deraming of probably won't happen.

BTW I do not save in a traditional pension plan. I invest in Rands. Kruggerands Wink
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
www.getrichslowly.org recommend a balanced split of 50% needs, 30% wants and 20% savings. You don't have many needs so you should follow the split but increase your wants and savings.

Lets say you spend £100 on board (your parents will appreciate it even if it's a small amount). At least £100 on getting to work and the odd lunch. Leaves about £500. Split that £300 on whatever the hell you like and £200 into savings.

I'd put £100 into something a bit speculative - stocks and shares ISA probably and £100 into something easy access and safe (standard savings account).

Many people forget the balance - you want to enjoy yourself otherwise it's pointless but you also need to tuck something away. Even if it's just for a deposit on a rental. Depending on where you live nearly £9.6k (4years of £200) could be a decent deposit on a small place of your own too!


Also a good idea to split the speculative over a few funds and different parts of the world. The secure part you can split in money market and fixed deposits.

As long as most people don't save, they will have to borrow and pay interest. Why let the Silversteins and Hoggenheimers make all the interest?

When you eventually have large sums, it becomes worthwhile buying to rent. But that is not profitable on the short term if you must borrow money in order to buy to rent.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 30 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dex wrote:
As a ballpark....


If you put £150 a month into a pension, but the time you retire that alone will give you an income of ~£800 a month.




By the time he retires that'll be enough to get the weekly shopping in. What else will he live off?
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