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Turkish
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: CBR600F Reply with quote

To cut a long story short, I am looking to buy one of these around May time. It's a while away yet, I know, but I'm kind of itching to get something new...

It will be restricted (initially Mr. Green), and my budget is less than 2 grand. Insurance will be TPF&T so I won't be comfortable spending more than that.

I'd like the aluminium model, so 99 onwards.

So I have a few questions
What is this bike like to live with? - I will be commuting on it
Is it worth spending more for the FI version, '01+, bearing in mind the restriction
How much should I be looking to pay for a good example?
Any gremlins I should look out for?


By all accounts these were immensely popular bikes so I presume they aren't completely terrible. Please share your experiences.

Thanks chaps Smile
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: CBR600F Reply with quote

Turkish wrote:
I'd like the aluminium model, so 99 onwards.


Fail.
The steel frames were best in their class @ the iomtt back in the day.

I had a '95 and it was awesome.
I paid 900 for it.
Didnt have any gremlins
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a very late 97 FW for 2 years. It never let me down. It always ran brilliantly, and rode as well as much newer machinery I've tried TBH.

£1500 should get you a decent bike.

As said - no real gremlins. The only failure my bike had was the rev counter died every now and then, which was just a slightly iffy solder joint.

This is mine alongside my mate's 02 plate I think it was. TBH I don't think you'd be disappointed with either.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

superb bikes.

great to live with day to day.. comfortable and quick enough to have some fun on. only downside to the steelies is no storage as the seat bolts down over the tray. (you can get quick release kits though)

the carbed models will be better on fuel than f1. a nice FX/Y will be perfect (carbed but alloy frame if you really do want one)

prices can vary a lot and i bought my last one 4 years ago so no idea what they are now (i had a 97 and 98 steelie - which my dad now owns)

look for the usual.. service history, be wary of non-standard fairing (means its been down the road) check for cracks in the weld at the head-stock area of the frame.

ask about CCT as they can rattle.. tis an easy fix but a good bargaining chip. and the reg/rec's are weak on a lot of these hondas so ask about that too. again a pretty cheap fix if it lets go.

other than that they're pretty bomb-proof
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Cansa, steel frame ftw!

You'll be able to get one no problem with that money. I got mine 6 years ago for £900 (1991)

Reliable bikes, reg/rec can sometimes be an issue, I've only had to replace mine once in 30k miles.

Cam chain tensioner is another thing to listen for if too loud, will need replacing.

I've done long mile trips, track days and now is my daily commute bike, can't go wrong with these Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for teh steelies

mine cost me 600 quid and was the most fun evAr.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 16 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can get a cheap stealie go for it, seems there are plenty with low miles. I test rode a few, did not like carbs but ebay spares are cheaper. I think they look better, but at the same time the F4i is slightly lighter by 5kg.

Check the exhaust. Its very common for the downpipe collector to rust through, but I imagine many older/high mile bikes will have had stainless pipes fitted by now which is always a bonus. Since they are high revving bikes, budget for valve clearance check if they are near the service interval (16k). It'll cost £500 for a shop to do it.
Reg/rec is a minor issue, it may cost £20-50 for a used upgrade from ebay.
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a '97 myself and its never let me down once. the reg/rec and cam chain tensioner are two of the common problems but arent expensive to fix.

Kramdra dont know what garage your using but £500 for a valve check is an insane price Shocked
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a tidy 98 model as my commuter bike. Quick, comfy, cheap to insure, good handling and never let me down. Can strap quite a lot of gear on the pillion seat. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

WIN

I have had both steelies and alloy framed, and i would say the later.

The early bikes are ok, quick, handle on, brakes can we rather weak, all are knocking on a bit now.
the later are much lighter to ride, faster, brake so much better and actually comfier too. the later bikes fuel so nicely too all through the rev range so long as you leave it standard. fit a can and expect a bit of a hole low down.
Never ridden the later Fi version, but if its anything like the RR5 i did 14k on - carbed version as a road bike every time.

buy the best you can find, not the best you can afford.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a '95 model, hasn't been started for a while, but I bet if I hooked the battery up, it would fire straight up. Engine is smooth, quick. Just a good bike really no complaints (I owned a '91 before as well).
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you're interested, I have the five(?) washers and the accelerator 'stopper' somewhere that you need for a valid restriction - I paid Honda £250 for them to put it in mine before my two year restriction was up.

I'd be willing to sell to you for cheap - then all you need is to pay to get it dyno'd for the certificate, save you a bit of cash Smile

As for commuting, it's great! At first though it really took its toll on my wrists and they were painful for quite a few months, got pretty bad. I couldn't even lift weights. After doing wrist exercises, using a powerball and riding the bike for a few months, it got much better: but be aware that jumping from a 125 to the 600F, unless you've got meaty wrists it may be a little painful ;> GRIP the tank as much as possible with your knees all the time.

It's rapid, and I'm sure there are many, many a faster bike out there, but I haven't seen one yet on my commute. Top end I get 165 on the motorway, so not too shabby, and 101mph in second. Enjoy Wink
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kramdra
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you ever get problems with wrists on a bike you are doing it wrong.


£500 was the best quote I got for valve shims, that is ofcourse changing them. Garages were not interested in just checking( £100 or so), which I guess is easy enought to DIY. However I had it done as part of 7 exhaust studs, £800, head off, some welding, and back together. Labour aint cheap Sad

I'd go for a tatty fairing one, then it doesnt matter if you drop it, and most have scratches anyway. You can always get a chinese set for £250.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2001 CBR600f and commute on it.


Good day to day bike, mostly pretty reliable but a few common and relatively easy to sort things go wrong. I don't find it to be particularly comfortable, the mirrors are shit and it is a bit wet low down in the rev range. It is quick when worked, and the brakes are half decent.

Downpipes rust, radiators corrode, speed sensors die, reg/recs go, cam chain tensioners go noisy and the clutch baskets notch and go noisy. Noobs like them too, so look out for crashed ones.


33bhp is 33bhp, changes between the carb'd and FI ally frame bikes are minimal and most wouldn't even notice, I think the carb'd models were slightly better on fuel. If you go for a newer FI bike, you lose the adjustable front suspension, somewhere around 03/04.

There is also the F sport FI bike, this is very similar to the normal FI bike but has a better looking seat, no center stand, black frame and a few very mild gearing, valve and suspension changes.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an FW steel framed CBR600F. Great bike IMO, I use it to commute and hoon and it does both extremely well. As previously said it is a bit lacking lower down and you do have to keep it on the boil but I enjoy that anyway. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 17 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great all round bike and perfect for being introduced to the 'big' bikes, I learned a lot on mine that helps me ride the Gixxer properly now. Would have one again (as long as it's a looked after example) in an instant.

Here's my old one!

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PostPosted: 09:50 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got a CBR600FY,

Don't commute but its been a hoot thus far,

Only had it since Sept so cant comment on long term reliability, but they are well known to go on and on,

I found one in nice condition with FSH, and purchase receipt for £1900

Ive seen private sales cheaper, for bikes in equally good condition,

Should find what you are looking for
good luck and PHOTOS when you do!

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PostPosted: 21:07 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked my 600fW up for £1250 with a Remus can in October, in the black and silver color as posted previously. Its done 25k miles and was immaculate. Plenty of them about so you can choose to be picky when buying. This was the third I looked at.

Worth noting that insurance was loads cheaper on a steely over a later one for me at 22, first bike.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 18 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 96 CBR600F, was the best bike I've ever owned did 20k trouble free miles toured rode like a idiot only ever having to change the oil.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 23 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

supZ wrote:
..only downside to the steelies is no storage as the seat bolts down over the tray. (you can get quick release kits though)

..


Where?
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 23 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't bother bolting down the seat, never had any problems. It has a clip that holds it in place anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 23 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£500 for valve clearences is that right?
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 23 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyam wrote:
£500 for valve clearences is that right?


Never had mine done but I wouldn't have thought so - no more difficult to access than any other bike, and no more complicated.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 23 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I saved myself £500 then Smile

Not as hard as I first thought when I did it.

Fairings off, tank off, airbox off, niggly covers off, coils off, rocker cover off.

Feel gauge in the gaps (turning crank when necessary)

If gaps are in tollerance, put bike back together.

If changes are needed, cams off, replace shim, put bike back together.

I'd expect the majority of the labour is taking the bike apart and then putting it back together because once you're at the checking gaps stage, it's quite quick.
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