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PostPosted: 19:30 - 01 Apr 2013    Post subject: Ian Duncan Smith Reply with quote

Just perusing the Telegraph website, and in particular the story about Ian Duncan Smith -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9964767/Iain-Duncan-Smith-I-could-live-on-53-per-week.html

This comment i felt was fairly accurate -
"Ian Duncan Smith is a man who has spent most of his adult life sucking on the public teat and sponging off his wife's family.

He has a dim view of spongers and has promised to cut another £10billion off the state's handout bill. Obviously, the people who take handouts they don't deserve should be the first to take a cut.

So let's start by talking about someone who lives off the state and has little experience of the world of work you and I know. He is 58 years old and has suckled upon the publicly-funded teat for most of his life.

He's signed on the dole. He's had four children and received child benefit for all of them. He has put them each through private school, too.

His wife hasn't worked since they married, except for 15 months in which he got her a job paid by the taxpayer.

He and his colleagues eat and drink food subsidised by the tax payer in a palace we pay for. He is driven around in a car he does not own and has not paid for - we did.

And when he is too old to 'work' any more he will receive a better pension than most of the rest of us - which again we paid for.

He started out at the age of 21 with six years of taxpayer-funded military service, during which he acted as bag-carrier to a Major-General. Then in 1981, aged 27, he left the Army and signed on the dole for several months.

He then began a period of ordinary work based upon the skills he had gained at the taxpayer's expense, and worked in sales for arms dealer GEC-Marconi.

He then moved on to a property firm, where he was made redundant after six months, and then sold gun-related magazines for Jane's Information Group.

After 11 years of this not too glittering a career he succeeded in once again boarding the publicly-funded gravy train in 1992.

In the intervening 20 years he has been paid by the taxpayer every year more money than most of the rest of us manage to earn. He has managed to boost it up to more than six figures for a few years here and there by being more pompous than the others in his position.

In 2001 he helped his unemployed wife to have a suckle, arranging for her to be paid £15,000 a year to be his diary secretary. (The Newsnight TV programme pulled a story that seemingly alleged she didnt actually do anything).

These days he is given the grand total of near £150,000 a year from the taxpayer.

He lives for free in a £2million Tudor farmhouse on his father-in-law's ancestral estate in Buckinghamshire.

He has three acres of land, a tennis court, swimming pool and some orchards, which is not bad for a life paid for by the state.

'Who is this parasite?' you might cry. 'Tell us his name, let the authorities know his address. Let's get this guzzler out of the cushy life and show him what life is like for the rest of us,earning £7 an hour with a rise once every eight years and a miserly pension if we're lucky.'

His name is Iain Duncan Smith, and his address is: Palace of Westminster, LondonSW1A 0AA.

He is disgusting and a far far bigger leech on your money than the worst dole scrounger you can think of and twice as pointless."
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 01 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy's a fucking cock smoker.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 01 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sound a little jealous.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 01 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more to do with the fact that he has come out and said that he could live on £54 a week. "If I had to" was his response. Such a cock, he has no idea about it.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 01 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember folks, we're all in it together.
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a few blogs where people eat on £1/$1 a day.
It's perfectly possible to live cheaply if you make an effort.

Personally, I wouldn't want someone who 'likely works a lot more than 'normal' working hours who's paid for by public funds to be spending their time trying to eat cheaply.

I would want someone who's paid because they're not working by public funds to do so!
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr jamez wrote:
Remember folks, we're all in it together.


And the richest 10% have taken the biggest hit so far. All being in it together means the poor have to take a hit too, or did you think they would be excluded for some reason?
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

syl wrote:
mr jamez wrote:
Remember folks, we're all in it together.


And the richest 10% have taken the biggest hit so far. All being in it together means the poor have to take a hit too, or did you think they would be excluded for some reason?


For many people their thought process goes something like this...

People richer than you are too rich and need to be taxed very, very heavily!

People poorer than you are benefit scrounging waster scum.

Though I do concede that the concept of these people "thinking" is unproven.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

syl wrote:
mr jamez wrote:
Remember folks, we're all in it together.


And the richest 10% have taken the biggest hit so far.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward every day to hearing about anti-benefit tossers being made redundant...and having to rely on the benefits they only a short time previously were clamouring to have reduced. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is unrealistic, in the light of the past 20 years, that the government (Tory or Labour) have the ability to reform the benefits system and get rid of the parasites. The proposed bedroom tax is laughable. Perhaps they will propose a massive IT system to sort it all out!

This is all politics, Its a great bit of divide and conquer. We're arguing over saving some pocket money on getting scroungers into minimum wage Mcjobs (which I am sure they will happily take rather than stealing motorbikes!)

What are the plans for the 'employed and on benefits' crowd? Right now they are being subsidised; we can't afford to do this. The jobs that allow people to maintain this lifestyle do not exist. So millions will be pushed down into 'poverty' or forced debt, time to get prepared G stylee. We're all going to find out how poor this country is soon enough.

What happens to the retail sector when nobody has any spare cash? How much money does flipping burgers for other poor people add to GDP? Prediction of 10 trillion in debt by 2015.

This isn't about envy, nearly everyone is getting the barrel pointed at them. Every saver in the country whether its a cleaner or a millionaire is getting hit with inflation and low interest rates. People are losing their jobs and homes whatever the number in the bank account. Pensions are getting raided.

So what are the government doing for the real economy in conjunction with benefit savings? NOTHING. The City of London is doing great by the way, funny that when everything else is in decline. Could it be due to the fact that the government are propping them up? Low interest rates are brilliant for dangerous speculation. Those bailouts came in real handy, I wasn't annoyed at all when they refused me credit for my business.

We're all in it together Laughing

Austerity is here to stay, more bank bailouts look likely; prepare your anus for the cock some of you love so much.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

syl wrote:
And the richest 10% have taken the biggest hit so far.


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PostPosted: 15:05 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

syl wrote:
mr jamez wrote:
Remember folks, we're all in it together.


And the richest 10% have taken the biggest hit so far. All being in it together means the poor have to take a hit too, or did you think they would be excluded for some reason?


yeah but the top 10% are just about to get £100,000 a year better off due to there tax being lowered

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Shadow Treasury minister Chris Leslie chose to highlight the fact the top rate of tax was being cut from 50p to 45p as the welfare cuts were being implemented.

‘While millionaires get an average £100,000 tax cut this week Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) figures show that the average family will be £891 worse off this year because of tax and benefit changes since 2010,’ he said.


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PostPosted: 15:24 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do people think the top 10% have taken the biggest hit? Where is that coming from?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
Why do people think the top 10% have taken the biggest hit? Where is that coming from?


Well it certainly isn't the people at the top of the pile, they even managed to remove massive amounts from Cyprus whilst all the business owners and savers got a buzz cut.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
I look forward every day to hearing about anti-benefit tossers being made redundant...and having to rely on the benefits they only a short time previously were clamouring to have reduced. Laughing


I'm an anti-benefit poorfag, and I wouldn't take benefits. I'd be homeless before I signed on, I'd just find somewhere to work in exchange for food and accommodation though in reality.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:

I'm an anti-benefit poorfag, and I wouldn't take benefits. I'd be homeless before I signed on, I'd just find somewhere to work in exchange for food and accommodation though in reality.


pretty much the same
as me & the Mrs work we don't get any benefits, but in 1999 I had to go sign on
when I seen the hoops I had to jump through I though better of it and lived on beans & toast for 6 weeks
rather than go to the Interrogation centre
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:


I'm an anti-benefit poorfag, and I wouldn't take benefits. I'd be homeless before I signed on, I'd just find somewhere to work in exchange for food and accommodation though in reality.


Would you also refuse 'free' healthcare when you're freezing in your cardboard box? If you've paid tax then pride is not an issue. Your reality is bollocks!
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:

as me & the Mrs work we don't get any benefits, but in 1999 I had to go sign on
when I seen the hoops I had to jump through I though better of it and lived on beans & toast for 6 weeks
rather than go to the [s]Employment[/s] Interrogation centre


When I was made redundant I signed on for 4 months while I was retraining at my own cost. When I was employed again (selfemployed) I had a letter telling me that I had to pay the money back. No treason why though, I paid it all back and then 2 years later I got a letter telling me that they were giving me the money back again. What pisses me off more was that there were people there who would turn up with open beer cans and they bwould walk out with 10 times more money than I did.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr jamez wrote:


Would you also refuse 'free' healthcare when you're freezing in your cardboard box? If you've paid tax then pride is not an issue. Your reality is bollocks!


Well I wouldn't be in this country for a start, if I was going to be homeless I'd go be a homeless in Spain/Portugal - this countries weather (the wet more than the cold) makes being homeless a terrible state to be in.

I'd be able to give homeless in the UK a reasonable bash I reckon, certainly I'd be able to do a month or so without problems if for no other reason that there I've accrued a large amount of various outdoor equipment over the years. I've crossed the country hitching and fed myself solely from bin food in the past. So I feel more qualified than most about what life with no cash is like.

In reality there are places all over western europe (including the uk) that offer food and accommodation for help on farms, renovating houses etc etc. I'd much rather be over in spain in the sun, fixing shit up rather sat in rainy UK on the dole with little cash as many of my friends do.

I don't understand it really, if I had no ties, no job etc etc I would be out adventuring again, but so many people just sit and languish on facebook all day.....
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a brilliant mind. How would you recommend getting to Spain, a unicorn?
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people don't relies where they are in the world structure of life.

Let see.
If you live in a country that is not total corrupted.
Have shoes on your feet cloth's on your back.
A roof over your head.
And don't got to bed hungry.
You live in the top 5% of the world's population.

If you have a place that you own.
Have no debit to any one.
Have money in the bank.
You live in the top 2% of the world's Population.

Now where do you fit in against all the others
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr jamez wrote:
What a brilliant mind. How would you recommend getting to Spain, a unicorn?


Check out the horns on these guys!

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c71.0.403.403/p403x403/575991_10151400602712732_1513039677_n.jpg



Hitchhike that shit brah.

In 2011 I hitched from London to Germany and back in about 3/4 days. That includes hitching the dover ferry, you just ask people in the car park if they will take you (you pay by car not number of occupants). Total cost of that trip was 15 Euro, 8 of that 15 being an european road map bought in a belgian service station.

People do that silly charity hitch down to spain/morocco every year....

Not sure if trolling, or just small-minded... Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

John933 wrote:
Some people don't relies where they are in the world structure of life.

Let see.
If you live in a country that is not total corrupted.
Have shoes on your feet cloth's on your back.
A roof over your head.
And don't got to bed hungry.
You live in the top 5% of the world's population.

If you have a place that you own.
Have no debit to any one.
Have money in the bank.
You live in the top 2% of the world's Population.

Now where do you fit in against all the others
John933

I just read that in the voice of this guy.
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