Good biking route through the Swiss Alps to Italy

[Cheeseybeaner]

I'm planning to ride to southern Italy, Calabria in June and am wondering on what route to take through the Alps as would like to make the most of the ride down through there.
The route planner I've looked at sends me down the A2 which I believe is toll free (?) from Basel emerging on to the Italian A3 before Milan. I'd guess this is a pretty low road which maybe doesn't show you the best of the Alps?
I'm aiming to get where I'm going near Tropea in 3 days so maybe get to Switzerland in the first day's riding and camp (Lake Lucerne looked a good spot) before doing the trip across Switzerland and Italy over the next 2 days.
Any route suggestions would be great. I'd like to get across France quickly basically then enjoy a bit of Switzerland and the Italian roads.
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[Marmalade]

I personally like to head south quickly, avoiding France and the tolls so go for Lille and into Belgium then south through lux and the £1 a litre fuel towards Saarbrucken and then Stuttgart .

Lake constance for a visit and then towards Chur and onto the St Bernardino Pass, through St Bernardino and cross the swiss/italian border HERE this avoids the need for Swiss motorway tax and is an interesting ride through mountains.


On the St Bernardino pass

https://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo141/bramble43/IMG_2937.jpg
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[Cheeseybeaner]

[Marmalade]

It's pretty much all motorway or major routes right the way down and doing it in a day isn't a huge issue.

There is one weird junction that seems a little unfinished or badly planned just this side of lux that can get a little congested but generally it'll be clear right the way through.
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[yaigi]

I'm so jealous. I've driven through the Swiss alps twice going from LPool to Italy in the summer, over the mountains the views are amazing. If I can dig out the route we took I will be sure to let you know, also know of a brilliant hostel in Interlaken if you pass that way - called the Funny Farm (honestly), and it's ace. Would love to go again!

EDIT: Oh but do watch out in Milan and down the Italian A roads, they can be quite mental. In Milan there were quite a few unmarked cross junctions which reminded me of that Zurich advert where all the cars are flying in opposite directions and not hitting each other, except obviously the cars in Milan aren't intelligent-future-cars, so it's just people being mad, I swear some of them just close their eyes and floor it. On the A roads if you're any more than a couple of inches away from the car in front they get all mad and start flashing their lights, scooters fly past on the hard shoulder, and going past lorries feels like someone has just opened the oven door on you.
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[doggone]

It's a pretty long ride from the channel to Lake Constance in one day.
I have done the reverse trip in one, but it was most of 12 hours often sat at near 100mph especially through Belgium.
You could do it but don't mess about.

There are a good few decent (but very 'organised') camp sites right by the Lake so it's not a a bad choice, and though it can be shrouded in fog for days if it clears the view of Swiss mountains across the water is fantastic.

[Cheeseybeaner]

[kitty kat]

Lake Constance is beautiful, we stopped on a campsite that is right on the edge of the lake. We could see Switzerland from our tent.

We are thinking of riding down to Italy this year, but not sure where to head for. I would like to stop somewhere on the Adriatic.

[G]

I did -
Day 0 Reading - Harwich for night ferry after work.
Day 1 Harwich - Amsterdam - Nurburgring.
Day 2 Nurburgring - Bern.
Day 3 Bern - Turin

At Bern I just set the GPS for Martingy (which is the Swiss side of the StBernard pass) with 'shortest' route rather than quickest.
The Alpine foothills were fantastic, but the pass it's self was even better - especially ascending the Swiss side.

[spnorm]

I avoid motorways like the plague where possible. If you have three days, you have plenty of time to get there via A/B roads.

In 2010 we did Zeebrugge - Verdun - Strasbourg on the first day.

Strasbourg - Routes des Cretes in the Vosges (French side of the Black Forest and an awesome road) - Lake Luzern (Lucerne) on the second day.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=419060409349&l=c97614d0d0
The old towns in Strasbourg and Lucerne are both lovely.

On the third day you're straight out into the best Swiss passes i.e. Furka, Sustan, Grimsel etc. and over the St. Gottard pass to Italy.

[Cheeseybeaner]

[mjn51]

All this talk about the Bodensee (lake constance) reminds me I lived here for a couple of years
Seetrasse 5, Konstanz
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