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Squeaky666
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Zzr1100c1 one of the best bikes made in my opinion Reply with quote

After having z 1000 a1 frame number 9 I lost my way swopped it for a gsxr 1000 .Then many more bikes over the years .After having a ride on my mates zzr11 d4 I could see the light !. I had to get back on the big z'eds so I got a zzr11 c1 this Xmas with a little help from my lovely wife ,I put a full stainless 4into1 viper exhaust on it
I love my z'ed 23 years old and there not many modern bikes that can keep up Middle Finger My next job is the 60 thu mile service

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edited because I was feeling a bit snarky.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Zzr1100c1 one of the best bikes made in my opinion Reply with quote

I'll make up for moppy's edit Smile.

Do you mean GSXR1000 or GSXR1100?

Comfort is the only thing I can think which the ZZR does better than the GSXR and that's very dependant on a lot of factors.
Presuming you're defining better to be easier/faster/smoother rather than harder/slower/less smooth.

And yes, the brakes suck - but they do on the GSXR too, to be fair.

For the record; there are loads and loads and loads of modern bikes that can 'keep up' with an old standard Z1000 with similar riders on.

I'd have thought any 600 from the last 15 years would easily show it a clean pair of heals with a similarly skilled rider.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The C1 I had was ok - but I've had many bikes that were much better. The rear suspension was more vague than a cabinet minister's expense sheet.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well perhaps I've got a soft spot for the classic kawk I work for a motorcycle response team new bikes every 12 months but still love riding my z'ed had a 750 slab side for a bit that was fun Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

the D model is nice, made in the USofA if I recall correctly? That said all models are nice Smile

All big ZZRs are lovely road bikes, they make a lot of sense - plenty of low down grunt, nice tank range and a big comfy seat with fairings that work.

I have disagreed with G on this in the past few days but the torque produced, and more precisely the torque curve makes a nice smooth chunk of surge that you don't get on your sportsbikes.

Cant beat a good bit of old school raw large engine Smile cubes win prizes.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

XanderZZR wrote:

Cant beat a good bit of old school raw large engine Smile cubes win prizes.

No. Power does.

Apart from down the pub, where everyone knows "you can't beat a cc" or whatever the saying is (probably involving inches).

Anyway, I believe I showed that it wasn't due to the torques, but due to lower gearing - and even then, there's not much in it as that lower gearing doesn't particularly 'help'.

My tweaked ZX9 I reckon at least equalled a ZZR1100 - modern superbikes will have more go throughout the rev range.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

"There is no replacement for cubic displacement"
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My C3 was a cracking bike for the age. Cheap, fast, comfortable.

Sorry G, I'd rather have any model ZZR than a zx9.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far prefer the C model to the D, much less boring to ride imo.

The GSXR1000 K1 front caliper is the "standard" modification for the front brake, can update the master cylinder at the same time. Needs a tophat spacer machining up, not a difficult job though. You'll find a set of measurements and diagrams on the net if you look around.

It's also worth swapping out the usually nigh on fucked coils as well, switch to a more modern coil in plug set up without difficulty. Check the resistance though as you can fry the ignitor box with a bad choice.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reasons apart from comfort Polarbear?
Note that in regards to power I did specify mine - which managed 143hp on a dyno - 2hp less than a zzr1200 on the same day, though neither bike was set up perfectly.

And yes - I was quite horrified the last weekend to find a 6 pot tokico considered an 'upgrade'!
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Any reasons apart from comfort Polarbear?
Note that in regards to power I did specify mine - which managed 143hp on a dyno - 2hp less than a zzr1200 on the same day, though neither bike was set up perfectly.

And yes - I was quite horrified the last weekend to find a 6 pot tokico considered an 'upgrade'!


Comfort is good at my age!
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved my zzr, I only had a little 600 (E5?) loved it, but it died in a crash. This means the Mrs has some sort fear of just that bike so I don't know if I'll ever get another.
Loved the way it delivered the speed though, private road upto 150+ scary as shit with a huge grin. Never got wet on it either and loved the glove box!
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say they're a fuck ugly barge, but each to their own.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
I'd say they're a fuck ugly barge, but each to their own.


But barges can be very useful though, just think of all that comfort, space and practicality. I can also see how they'd make maintaining decent speeds a breeze behind that fairing, presumably a good tank range too. Guess it depends on how you use your bike as much as anything.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you actually ridden a GSX1400? For a retro it's a bloody great road bike - and it pulls from nothing in any gear... Not quite so sure a peaky 600 offers the same.

I have ridden both, they are nice for what they are designed for but you would be surprised at how the gsx1400 launches in a line.

Most 14s are modified anyway, I had one and was in the owners group, most of the guys who owned one had done the super sports thing and were after something different.

Horses for courses Smile.

Again, the ZZR11 is a fantastic road bike, perfect fairing and comfort for the roads and enough power to give a big grin Wink
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

XanderZZR wrote:
Not quite so sure a peaky 600 offers the same.

That's why they include both a clutch and a gear lever on the 'peaky 600' Wink.

I'd hope any modern non-budget bike that didn't have stupid styling (such as cruisers) would handle pretty well on the road.
As for 'launches' - I'd expect them to be the same as many other bikes (including sports 600s) - limited by wheelies, but then be a bit more limited by aeroydynamics as speed gets up.

Personally I find that a sports 600 has too much power for real fun on the roads - and that's with an involving peaky delivery.
It's even less fun for me when you don't even have to change gear for the same results - one step away from getting a chauffeur to drive you around Wink.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Zzr1100c1 one of the best bikes made in my opinion Reply with quote

Squeaky666 wrote:
Zzr1100c1 one of the best bikes made in my opinion


Squeaky666 wrote:

Is there any modern callipars that fit the front


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PostPosted: 11:42 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
baggylastard wrote:
"There is no replacement for cubic displacement"


GSX1400 - 1402 cc. Power = 105 bhp

Ninja 636 - 636cc. Power = 135bhp

So, 766cc's LESS and making 30bhp MORE?

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£10 says in equal conditions the GSX would get a better 1/4 mile time than the 636.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

XanderZZR wrote:
Again, the ZZR11 is a fantastic car


EFA.

Don't PM me shit then ignore me, that isn't how trolling works. Return the favour lard lover Thumbs Up Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

£10 says in equal conditions the GSX would get a better 1/4 mile time than the 636.

Standing quarter for the GSX listed as 11.4 for the GSX.
10.8 or 10.9 for the Kawasaki it seems.

Cash or paypal?
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Aerodynamics really start to come in to play.
I'm not convinced the Kawasaki has a 30hp advantage. But when it comes to power to aerodynamic ration, I'm sure it does have a big advantage.
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
XanderZZR wrote:
Again, the ZZR11 is a fantastic car


EFA.

Don't PM me shit then ignore me, that isn't how trolling works. Return the favour lard lover Thumbs Up Laughing


No need to flame Paddy, there is some good debate going on in this thread. Personal things should be kept to PM Very Happy I am quite sure the rest of BCF isn't interested in pointless flames between two users.

The fact remains the ZZR11 is a fantastic road bike; as for lard loving last time I checked a TLS is an old piece of lard? Why didn't you go for a TLR? Or an S1000rr?

Stop detracting from decent threads with abusive rubbish.
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