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PostPosted: 12:09 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Sex Box - stuff Reply with quote

C4 seems to rely heavily on these scraping the barrel type shows. Every other month, there's another 'sex' series.

It's the same old banal titillation, or freakshow nonsense.

There are so many interesting philosophical, sociological, and anthropological debates to be had, around sex and sexuality, but rather than pursuing that (which would turn off most people) C4 opts for:

1. SEX BOX

To illustrate real sex, couples - with the obligatory gays, of course - will have sex in a soundproof box, and then share their intimate thoughts, not with each other, but with a studio audience.

How this is any more 'real' than a pornographic money shot, is anyone guess. Seems to me that it is exploiting sexuality for C4's ends. No more 'real', let alone 'moral' (which C4 claims for itself) than porn is.

C4's experiment is to sex what sperm donating is to a hand job. Complete with teleconferencing after the act.

TO me, the real debate is, who defines what is real sex? What adults see as pornographic sex might well be future sex in genesis: sex evolves.

Sex today is different to what it was 50 years ago and it will be different in 50 years, when cold sex with self-evacuating robots will probably be commonplace.

There is no "real sex" to uncover. Porn is as real as anything. It exists for a reason. It expresses a part of male psychology (mostly) that is as 'real' as 'romcoms' are. Like it or not.


2. HERE COME THE GIRLS

Very politically correct pro female sexuality docu. Been done to death, of course. The shelves are full of glossy mags advising girls on good sex. There's no mystery, nor debate to be had about this, it's not the 1950's.

It is forcing on females a mono-dimensional version of sexuality (whilst claiming it promises openness to diversity): i.e. the Sex and the City worldview. In which women are forced to be 'open' about sexuality. In which women are not women unless they are aspiring for multi orgasms.

I'm not saying women shouldn't want that - of course, it's a tautology: if they seek it, they should seek it. I'm saying, women are now preached to by culture that that's what they should want, just as they were once preached to about marriage before the age of 20, etc. A woman can't be a modern women without a selection of vibrators and endless chatter with her 'girlfriends' about the subject.

More interesting would be a show about how men can get good sex.

But then that would open a dark can of worms. Because the truth is that women can be theorised as mostly receptacles for men. Sex for men is mostly masturbation with a prop. This is why men can ejaculate into anything - from fruit to a car exhaust. And porn, for men, is far closer to the 'real' sex we all dreamed of as children, when our psychology was formulated.

That's why most of us view it. No man dreamed, as a child, of being trapped into tedious sex with a hairy, overweight stinker - waving her manky vibrator in his face. But that's what most men end up with, due to the Venusian agenda, which makes it 'immoral' to replace old with new, even though that is what nature suggests we do.

I'd like to see a C4 show on how men can get better sex through cheating on her for her younger sister, or having a mistress on call, etc.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's crappy, but TV these days is crappy. What intrigues me more is the amount of threads started on the subject of sex by you yourself Mondeo Man! Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mondeo man need to watch some Japanese television Laughing

Not work safe.


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PostPosted: 15:05 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY POSTS ABOUT SEX.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

prawny1 wrote:
Mondeo man need to watch some Japanese television Laughing

Not work safe.


gameshow


That's not real, surely? Confused
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure is, I think they win a holiday or something if they manage to participate in every rounds.

If they choose their parent, sister, brother or whatever they have to just carry on or go home.

This is from the country that brings you virgin defloration, and trick the business man into bumming a tranny on air.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's not real, surely? Confused

The internet says 'probably not'.

If it is; more disturbing than the stuff Ste posts!
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Nexus Icon wrote:


That's not real, surely? Confused

The internet says 'probably not'.

If it is; more disturbing than the stuff Ste posts!


This link suggests that it's feasible...

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120724183950AAOmHIl
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
What intrigues me more is the amount of threads started on the subject of sex by you yourself Mondeo Man! Laughing

Someone has to.

If I told you what I think about all day long, someone would invariably go "That hellkat! ... all she ever thinks about is food, sex and poo".

(not all at the same time, I hasten to add)
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a big thing made about mothers having sex with their sons to help them over their studies when I was in Tokyo in the early nineties. And it wasn't along the lines of "ooh, that's so wrong!", it more like "is this supposed to be normal?"

But then you could get bestiality vids in the vid shop and nobody thought that was odd either.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never could stand that Fisherman's wife Hokusai thing
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it's because I've gotten older (probably), but TV seems to have really, really declined in the last 10 years.

Since the advent of reality TV it seems as if 90% of TV is now made up with 'watching other people live their lives'.

Either that, or shows about the latest 'scandal' wherein Gladys ends up paying 10% more on her phone bill.

All of the decent stuff seems to have been shoveled over onto BBC Three and similar to die slowly.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 06 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's why most of us view it. No man dreamed, as a child, of being trapped into tedious sex with a hairy, overweight stinker - waving her manky vibrator in his face.


You're doing it wrong. By 'it' I mean life. And sex.

Stop viewing sex as masturbation with a prop (though it is at its most basest, one night stand/quick 3am fumble behind a skip on a Saturday night level). Stop fucking overweight stinkers who put vibrators in your face and you might cheer up a bit.

As an aside, how much porn do you watch?
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 07 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
I don't know if it's because I've gotten older (probably), but TV seems to have really, really declined in the last 10 years.

Since the advent of reality TV it seems as if 90% of TV is now made up with 'watching other people live their lives'.

Either that, or shows about the latest 'scandal' wherein Gladys ends up paying 10% more on her phone bill.

All of the decent stuff seems to have been shoveled over onto BBC Three and similar to die slowly.


Pretty much, and they are taking this "reality" thing to a ridiculous degree, there was some program I caught seconds of that was in the format of Geordie Shore (I've watched a few minutes of that too, for research purposes, didn't make it past 4m:59s before I started to self-harm). Anyway, these are basically just kids that have gone to magaluf, and doing as the romans do, they just get pissed and chuck one up the nearest slag, but then they interview them Geordie Shore style.... and its just dull fucking dross, they're not even saying anything remotely interesting, and sound awkward/nervous as fuck in front of the camera.... and they look about 12. Small wonder a nation of retards is being bred.

Besides, the idea is not even original, I remember Prickly Heat/Ibiza/Greece Uncovered. And they were shit too.

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PostPosted: 15:47 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
I don't know if it's because I've gotten older (probably), but TV seems to have really, really declined in the last 10 years.

Since the advent of reality TV it seems as if 90% of TV is now made up with 'watching other people live their lives'.

Either that, or shows about the latest 'scandal' wherein Gladys ends up paying 10% more on her phone bill.

All of the decent stuff seems to have been shoveled over onto BBC Three and similar to die slowly.


No it is simple economics.
To pay actors and script writers and hire a studio etc. costs money.
Plebs and their existence cost fcuk all.
Sure they may get a prize but prizes on TV make more money for the network.

What drives Simon to spot all that 'talent'?

Cynical but mostly troo.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the adverts it looked a bit liked a ratings grabbing look at me kind of pathetic stunt, but from skimming over perhaps a minute or two of it, it does look like quite a genuine and informative effort at a documentary about sex. If you're interested in factual documentaries this is probably worth a watch.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
There was a big thing made about mothers having sex with their sons to help them over their studies when I was in Tokyo in the early nineties. And it wasn't along the lines of "ooh, that's so wrong!", it more like "is this supposed to be normal?"

But then you could get bestiality vids in the vid shop and nobody thought that was odd either.


The more I see and read about Japan, the more I love the sound of it.

(not the bestiality and mother humping in particular).


On the crap TV show debate. Just don't watch them. It's that simple.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

prawny1 wrote:
and trick the business man into bumming a tranny on air.


I think I remember the clip you're talking about. It was about different attitudes, I remember the voice over saying what does he do about it? Nothing... i.e he was pretty nonchalant.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 08 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@TwopTwips: EXPERIENCE being in the Sex Box audience by crying yourself to sleep as your Dad gives your Mum one in the bedroom next door.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 09 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
I never could stand that Fisherman's wife Hokusai thing
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Oh nice one Kat now i have to google and find out what that is???

Sometimes im glad i lead a simple life.

Ok now i see what you mean......always liked there cartoons those japs...
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 09 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea what this shit is about.

But I will say...Mariella Frostrup has got the kind of voice that can only be achieved by swallowing gallons of jizz, and smoking 60 a day. As Honor Blackman will no doubt attest.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 09 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
I never could stand that Fisherman's wife Hokusai thing
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Because they have an awful lot of fish being surrounded by the sea and little arable land?

NZ and UK for instance have lots of arable land, and thus give rise to sheep shaggers.
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