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| Renton |
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 Posted: 18:19 - 25 Oct 2013 Post subject: Farewell Ride Magazine |
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I have bought Ride magazine for several years now, not religiously, but most months I will buy the latest issue. I've always enjoyed the kit reviews, readers letters and articles, even if it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
My problem however, is the BMW R1200GS. Not the bike itself, but the fact that Ride magazine cannot, it seems, get through a single review without comparing the bike on test to the GS. I have no doubt that the bike has sold extremely well and grown hugely popular since its release (of course helped by what's his face and Renton....I mean, Ewan). But Ride have become that friend who's fallen in love with the ginger cousin who's good at math and finds every opportunity to bring her up in conversation. Yes she's a complete whizz with numbers, which can be very helpful in many ways, but she'll never be prom queen or head cheerleader.
The November issue, for those of you who haven't read it, includes a two day road test to find the modern day VFR, king of the sports touring class.
And Ride magazines winner....the GS. While the bike may be capable of meeting the sports touring criteria, it's crowning moment in the conclusion is negated by the seemingly biased way in which it got there. Reading the magazine front to back is almost like watching a day at the Grand National with a doped horse.
So for this, I will no longer be buying the magazine as I am sick to death of reading about a bike that I am never, ever going to own, let alone even consider. ____________________ This is my motorcycle. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
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RiDE used to be good back in the late nineties and early 2000s. Back then it wasn't condescending or patronising but it had the same amount of wonderment and enthusiasm for bikes as I had at that time. Bike mag at the time was more aloof and a little more knowing in tone, but Ride was your mate who knew a little bit more about bikes and kit than you did and who went to for advice.
Then back in the mid 2000s it started to do more and more articles aimed specifically at new riders. Not just articles that could be enjoyed by all including noobs but specific new biker items. I found it started to sound a little patronising, then a lot patronising then very patronising, then properly condescending.
At the same time, Superbike started it's transformation from the nutters choice of mag with boobs in every centrefold, to being a sort of surrogate RiDE Mag. Not as condescending, but it had no niche. Fast bikes was sold to a bigger publisher and was no longer independent and became Rubbish, and Performance bikes became a crap Superbike knock off (which is pretty damn bad). Throughout most of this Bike stayed true to it's previous form until about 2009 when it started to talk more about the environment, economy and ecology than about bikes. Performance bikes recovered a little, and Bike did improve a bit but the damage was done.
The best mag around by far right now is Practical Sportsbikes. It's not beholden to advertisers who want their latest bike to be featured in the mag, it's just a bunch of guys who really like older sportsbikes and show you how to spanner them.
Nowadays, I wouldn't touch RiDE, Fast Bikes or Superbike. I occasionally buy Bike and PB but they aren't a patch on Practical Sportsbikes and Classic Motorcycle Mechanics. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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 Kickstart The Oracle

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 Posted: 18:59 - 25 Oct 2013 Post subject: |
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Hi
Afraid (for the magazines) I rather agree with Marjay.
Ride always was a bit aimed at new riders, but tended to cover a reasonably wide range of bikes. Last few times I have read it I have got a bit put out by it. Maybe condescending, but possibly more scared to say anything slightly controversial.
Bike magazine used to be a bit more rough, but moved upmarket around 1990. It is still very similar now but does vary a bit. Worth a read but again seems to be slightly scared to be controversial.
PB isn't bad, picked up well a few years ago. Quite similar to Practical Sportsbikes, but aimed at riders of newer bikes.
Haven't bought a copy of Superbike in years, and not sure I have bought a copy of Fast Bikes this century.
All the best
Keith ____________________ Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing |
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I used to occasionally buy Ride (or RiDE as they style it) as it's a "general interest" rag and they do cover a wide range of bikes.
It's well up to the usual standards that I've come to expect of professional journos though. When they ran an article on the new A2 license category, it was riddled with factual errors, including banging on about the 0.2kW/kg limit and then listing some enduro 450 that was clearly over that limit as an example of an A2 bike.
And yes, I do agree that they are super mega gay for the 1200GS, and I'm just bored of reading about it. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy of every mid-life crisis bloke buying one - oh, no, no, I've never even heard of this "Long Way Round" thing, what's that? - leading to every mag wanking themselves dry over it while running pages of BMW ads, and round we go.
They might as well re-title it "RiDE a Beemer alternative marques may be available". 1200GS is not the answer to every question in biking.
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Oh, FFS, they have a "Travel Q&A" this month with some couple wearing gripped-and-sorted Twatsuits on a big Beemer with the mandatory Mongolia-stickered panniers.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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 Posted: 20:07 - 25 Oct 2013 Post subject: Re: Farewell Ride Magazine |
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| Chalky wrote: | I have bought Ride magazine for several years now, not religiously, but most months I will buy the latest issue. I've always enjoyed the kit reviews, readers letters and articles, even if it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
My problem however, is the BMW R1200GS. Not the bike itself, but the fact that Ride magazine cannot, it seems, get through a single review without comparing the bike on test to the GS. I have no doubt that the bike has sold extremely well and grown hugely popular since its release (of course helped by what's his face and Renton....I mean, Ewan). But Ride have become that friend who's fallen in love with the ginger cousin who's good at math and finds every opportunity to bring her up in conversation. Yes she's a complete whizz with numbers, which can be very helpful in many ways, but she'll never be prom queen or head cheerleader.
The November issue, for those of you who haven't read it, includes a two day road test to find the modern day VFR, king of the sports touring class.
And Ride magazines winner....the GS. While the bike may be capable of meeting the sports touring criteria, it's crowning moment in the conclusion is negated by the seemingly biased way in which it got there. Reading the magazine front to back is almost like watching a day at the Grand National with a doped horse.
So for this, I will no longer be buying the magazine as I am sick to death of reading about a bike that I am never, ever going to own, let alone even consider. |
Think you should ride a GS. ____________________ 87 Honda CG 125 - 97 ER5 - SR 50 -81 Z250- 96 CBR 600 F- 94 GPX600R 88- GPX 400R- 87 GS 125 - 2006 Honda CB600F- 2003 ER5 - Honda CBF 1000 2009 - Honda CBR 600 RR 2011
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I subscribed to Ride in 90's after it changed from What Bike or something. It seemed good because it had a mix, but mainly focused around 2nd hand bikes. There was always a £1,500, £3,000 shoot outs and 5-10yr old bikes. And I really enjoyed their winter hack escapades. Their destruction of kit was useful to help narrow the search for stuff.
It also helped that their sub department never put up prices. I was paying £1.80 an issue up to 2004 when I cancelled it.
By then, as others have said, it was more and more about new bikes.
I still buy Bike because they still do a mix. It's two wheels, but not quite as focused on one area. Although as budgets have been cut, that's not quite so true either.
Why buy mags. I still like paper. I still like editorial. I like to read something put together by professionals but with contributions from amateurs. And, like a true child, I like the pictures  |
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PB is all flaps and no minge. Too many ads and over very quickly. I'll read my cousin's secondhand FB, it's not a bad read but littered with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. Bike is just a monthly MCN and Ride seems to be exclusively for Dayglo Derricks. Practical Sportsbikes is good but not really my era yet... Maybe in 10 years time. ____________________ Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
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I still mourn the passing of Which Bike?, my preferred read, in the days when I actually cared enough about what was going on to want to read about it every month.
I haven't bought magazines of any sort for years, but I did get a copy of Classic Motorcycle Mechanics to read on the train, getting me in the mood for picking up the Katana.
Not a bad read and ex WB? staffer John Nutting is a contributor, which is a bonus. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 168 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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