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Pie-Roe
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: 99 TL1000R only running on one Reply with quote

Hi, so basically, I took my bike to a local recommended bike shop that do a discount for a group I'm in. All I wanted was oil and filter change, bleed through clutch, do valve clearances and balance throttle bodies. Got quoted 50 quid for this, which is pretty reasonably (50% off parts and labour) Bike was running fine, a bit lumpy at idle but not terrible.

Anyway, this was last Tuesday, I work 6 days a week anyway and only ride sporadically so I said they could have the bike for a week or however long to fit it in, especially because of the massive discount. So I rang them yesterday (Tues) to see how they were getting along to be told that the owner had tried to get hold of me to tell me he'd done the work I'd asked for, but it had a fault where it the front cylinder would cut in and out, but that he was going on holiday for 2 weeks. So he's on holiday now and left some old guy and some kid there.

So I went to get it today, having already paid upfront for the work, and got the bike, expecting it to run normally, but for it to drop to one every now and then. It seems on idle when it's started up, it runs on two, but after a few moments the front cylinder cuts out, and only fires every couple of minutes for a few seconds. As they'd already said there was not much they could do until the main guy came back, and it was only 10 miles I just gently rode it home anyway. I'm going to kick off when he returns but there's very little point in me doing it to his employees who basically don't have a clue about what he even did, just gave me the job card.

So yeah. There's a distinct petrol smell when it's running from between the tank and fairings, so I'm presuming it's just likely to be a kinked hose or something, or that there's a connection not quite right or similar and the smell of petrol is from the unburnt fuel. I do not have the time to start taking it apart as I'm working a lot. I don't really want to take it to Robinsons Foundry as they'll bum rape me for lots of cash just to even have it in their workshop. Any suggestions?
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DrDonnyBrago
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: 99 TL1000R only running on one Reply with quote

£50 including valve clearances?

Really?
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. The group and the owner are somewhat affiliated, so he does give a massive discount.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...

If he moved the throttle bodies, you've got injector seals galore in there. Mine perished when they were touched, bought new ones.

Mine also stank of fuel, was the injector seals.

I also think you have 4 in total... I'm lucky and have 2, but the TLR has a bit more tech on top.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want it done properly do it yourself. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 13:57 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be something daft like HT lead not on plug right?
I'd also suspect a faulty plug or coil failing.
It's unlikely to be serious.
Might not even be related to the work done on it.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who rode my TL prior to me fixing it, they will understand the single cylinder jumpyness etc. Sounds identical and its a royal pain as you need to strip the fucker right down.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's a good start but really annoying to know Paddy.
Where did you take yours to get done?
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Could be something daft like HT lead not on plug right?
I'd also suspect a faulty plug or coil failing.
It's unlikely to be serious.
Might not even be related to the work done on it.



It's possible. I haven't taken anything apart yet to have a look as I only had a 2 hour window to collect it and it's pissing down with rain.

I agree that it might be unrelated, but it seems unlikely that I ride it for hundreds of miles with no issue, then give it to a shop and suddenly it has this problem.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyro. wrote:
Well that's a good start but really annoying to know Paddy.
Where did you take yours to get done?


Front garden. Aside from the taking bits off, its remarkably simple to fix, although seals are pricey for what they are and fairly easy to damage.

Easiest test, turn bike on and let the pump prime, check down the left hand side of front cylinder, battery side I think. Use a torch and check for fuel running down. Keep turning the key on and off. If it is leaking, it will be from the injectors Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the R has 4 injectors in total two per pot

join up here www.tlzone.net what these guys dont know you could write it on a postage stamp

personally I think your throttle position sensor has been moved

easy to check if you want the details
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It couldn't move so much as to cause a single cylinder surely, they are pretty robust screws..
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
It couldn't move so much as to cause a single cylinder surely, they are pretty robust screws..


well it depends what the "mechanic" has touched

I have known TL's to run great one day and the next shite and its been the TPS Smile
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TPS has no bearing on leaking fuel though, proper waste of fuel too Sad
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably a coil/lead breaking down.
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