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Nick 50
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Mensa Reply with quote

Has anyone took the supervised Mensa test? What was it like?
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PostPosted: 01:04 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A doodle, passed it became a member, pile of shite never renewed my membership



Ok it wasn't a doodle but I did pass it scoring 154
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It states that it will last for 2.5 hours Shocked What on earth takes so long?
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I heard it was £50. My IQ tells;s me that £50 is a rip off so I told them to do one.
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes you want to join, are you going to benefit from it Razz or just have an emptier wallet
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer will be along soon. With his superior IQ he must be a senior member of Mensa so should be able to tell you all the benefits of getting to mix with those who're smarter than you.
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PostPosted: 02:49 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot my login details...Do I win something?
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PostPosted: 04:10 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

146.... 82, 82, 82....... 246.....
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PostPosted: 04:43 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a place for people who want to see themselves as better than others.

These are usually the people crying because they didn't get into Oxbridge, mostly upset because they not better than everyone else anymore Wink
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main reasoning for trying it is for something extra to go on my CV. I'm a mature student with not so good GCSE results and will be applying for Internships for next summer.

I am kind of hoping that being a Mensa member might be helpful when competing with kids nearly half my age with impeccable academic results.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick 50 wrote:
The main reasoning for trying it is for something extra to go on my CV. I'm a mature student with not so good GCSE results and will be applying for Internships for next summer.

I am kind of hoping that being a Mensa member might be helpful when competing with kids nearly half my age with impeccable academic results.

Not meaning to be rude, but id be worried a lot of prople would simply see that as ''look at this pretenious know it all - member of mensa and cant even get good grades'' or similar.

Put the time and money towards some self study or night classes and similar. Especially if youre below C's in maths and english on paper if can be a big struggle accessing a lot of things Thumbs Down


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PostPosted: 10:34 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick 50 wrote:
The main reasoning for trying it is for something extra to go on my CV. I'm a mature student with not so good GCSE results and will be applying for Internships for next summer.

I am kind of hoping that being a Mensa member might be helpful when competing with kids nearly half my age with impeccable academic results.


If you put that on your CV, you will look like a massive cock and it'll go straight in the bin.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone sent me a CV and it said they were a member of Mensa it wouldn't count against them. It'd suggest they might be a bit smug but if the rest of the CV was good enough to warrant an interview I'd save that judgement until I met them. IQ isn't the only thing I'm looking for in an employee but it's one positive aspect.

This from a non-member who would unlikely ever qualify.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they were in Densa too, I'd be impressed - as a SIG of Mensa it seems to have a sense of humour and by definition be a bit self-deprecating. *thinks that having a high IQ means someone is only very good at passing IQ tests*
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The word mensa (/ˈmɛnsə/; Latin: [ˈmensa]) means "table" in Latin, as is symbolized in the organization's logo, and was chosen to demonstrate the round-table nature of the organization; the coming together of equals.[2]


Well I call bullshit.

The round table nature is everyone is equal, not we're better than 98% of dumb shits.

Cunts.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a supervised Mensa test for a laugh last year, it was about £20.

The result isn't given as a score - all these people who say, "Mine is 140/150/160/etc." are not really giving any insight whatsoever into their measured 'IQ'.

The score is given as a percentage based on the normal distribution of all test-takers, which is presented as a bell-curve like this:

https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/images/normal-distrubution-large.gif

There are two tests. Both are multiple-choice. One is entirely based on visual and spatial reasoning - there are no words - which means you aren't at a disadvantage if English isn't your first language, or if you're a child who doesn't know many words. The second test is all about comprehension and understanding and has lots of words, so is a bit more difficult/pointless. Each test is stand-alone, so you only need to pass one of them to get into Mensa.

To get into Mensa your score needs to be to the right hand side of the 2σ mark on the image above (roughly the top 2%). On the first test I got 8% and on the second test I got 10%, which converts to about 1.4σ on the bell curve, and that's quite far over to the right of the curve, so I'm pleased enough with that Very Happy .

Call me a cunt all you like but I think the anti-intellectualism of British culture is appalling. If a guy hands in his CV and it says he's in Mensa, the fact that most people would bin it is really saying something about the state of this nation. Combine this with the fact that if a person rocks up to a job interview with such base things as a shiny business-class car and a nice suit, his chances of success will often increase, just because he looks the part? I truly despair.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Call me a cunt all you like but I think the anti-intellectualism of British culture is appalling. If a guy hands in his CV and it says he's in Mensa, the fact that most people would bin it is really saying something about the state of this nation.


Not really. There is NO benefit to being in Mensa, other than to tell people you are in it so they think you are a clever bastard. I don't want the sort of 'look at me' person, because they are invariably jumped up wankers.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think theres anything wrong with it in principle, itd be interesting to do on a personal level, i just think things like that, particularly in OP's case were more directly relevant criteria are lacking arent always a good idea to mention as it might come across as diverting from the fact youre lacking elsewhere/being arrogant to a lot of employers. Its a bit like putting your IQ alongside your name on a CV. Informative yes, useful or relevant to your average job - probably not Razz
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Call me a cunt all you like but I think the anti-intellectualism of British culture is appalling.

angryjonny nailed it when he said:
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IQ isn't the only thing I'm looking for in an employee but it's one positive aspect.

Employers are looking for way more than high IQ: you need to be good at dealing with other people, you need to be willing, you need the right sort of attitude, etc. And those qualities are often better rewarded than having the smarts in spades.

I'm not saying it's right, but that's certainly how it is.

As for MENSA, well I've been there. My excuse is that it was a nerdy form of testing my limits when I was just out of university: I was finding out how smart I actually was. I didn't make it into a second year of membership: one of the things that's indelibly etched in my memory 29 years later was an entry in the Special Interest Group section of the magazine by a guy who wanted to have "intelligent discussions about football". That neatly summed up how utterly pretentious I found it.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:


Not really. There is NO benefit to being in Mensa, other than to tell people you are in it so they think you are a clever bastard. .


What's a CV for? Interesting how a lot of people will put stuff like, "Captain of local Rugby team, active runner, won county marathon five times in a row, black belt in Karate." and that's considered to be totally fine. even though there's NO benefit to doing those things, other than to tell people you did it so they think better of you.

What's the difference? It's all just boasting.

It just happens be, as I said, that we have a culture of major anti-intellectualism. It's not cool to be too smart.


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PostPosted: 16:45 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanC wrote:

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IQ isn't the only thing I'm looking for in an employee but it's one positive aspect.

Employers are looking for way more than high IQ: you need to be good at dealing with other people, you need to be willing, you need the right sort of attitude, etc. And those qualities are often better rewarded than having the smarts in spades


Well, yeah, that goes without saying.

I'm just on about how most people seem to actively despise any label of intelligence.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain of local Rugby team - leadership/management skills
active runner - healthy worker
won county marathon five times in a row - determined and persistent
black belt in Karate - got me on that one, good at defusing workplace fights Laughing ?

Point is thats how many will analyse a CV, mensa/iq will just be ignored, considered redundant or even arrogant in many cases. Totally agree with you about the anti-intelligence thing and how negative it is though. Theres almost a stigma and cautiousness about seeming clever in many areas of society which is ridiculous and counter productive to everyone really.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Captain of local Rugby team - leadership/management skills
active runner - healthy worker
won county marathon five times in a row - determined and persistent
black belt in Karate - got me on that one, good at defusing workplace fights Laughing ?


And, High IQ/Mensa - Good comprehension, understanding, problem-solving, analysis, etc.


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. Totally agree with you about the anti-intelligence thing and how negative it is though. Theres almost a stigma and cautiousness about seeming clever in many areas of society which is ridiculous and counter productive to everyone really.


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PostPosted: 20:39 - 07 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
...I'm just on about how most people seem to actively despise any label of intelligence.

OK Lord Percy, like it or not, you're going to be involved in a cage fight. You're going to get locked up with an experienced fighter who can defend himself from anything you can do and who, if he chooses, can beat the living snot out of you. You're likely going to be frightened of him and, if he does choose to give you a good pounding, you'll probably end up hating him.

Now consider the intellectual equivalent. You're in the lower 50% of that chart you posted and you're having to deal with something you don't understand. There are people out there who seem effortlessly able to deal with stuff you struggle with, but if you go to one of them for help then how will you know they're not taking advantage of you? And what will you do if they are?

There's been no shortage of the supposed intelligentsia getting it wrong (e.g. recession) or telling people things they don't want to hear (e.g. global warming) recently, so Joe Average isn't inclined to trust anymore...
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