how to book MOD2?

ian3mith · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 18 Dec 2012 Karma :

I got my MOD1 test on the 1st May, if i pass that how can i book my MOD 2 test? If i book it without my school instructor knowing. Will the DSA centre provide you with a bike for the test ( MOD2).

pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

ian3mith · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 18 Dec 2012 Karma :

Yh i feel that the instructor is squishing my wallet, i am not that bad for MOD2

wr6133 · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Karma :

You can book it online. Problem is you need a bike for it so you'll need a mate with a qualifying bike to ride it to the test centre, slap on some L plates and then let you use it for the test.

pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

Motorcycle mod 2 test fee is: £75 during the week. £88.50 at the weekends, evenings or bank holidays.

Chances are the instructor has factored this into the final cost and the average price of an instructor hire is around £25 -£30 per hour and that will include the 40 minutes or so you are out on test for. Yes you are paying him to sit around and wait. If you need a few hours work you will pay for that but the average cost is around £150 for going through a test with an instructor using their bike.

It really pisses me off when people think the motorcycle lessons and training is very expensive. Its actually really cheap in comparison to car tests and lessons. The average DAS course will set you back around £600 including test fee's. By the time you take out the test fee's you are looking around £500 for the actual lessons.

Most DAS courses are 3 - 4 day events with a good 6-7 hours training each day.

Now. The average amount of lessons someone needs to pass a car test is around 25 - 30 lessons. Driving lessons cost an average of £25 per hour that makes the cost of learning to drive a car around £625-£750 and that does not include the test fee of £62 (£75 weekends and evenings).

Now, that said, there is no reason you need to have an instructor with you to do your tests on a motorcycle. But you do need a bike. You cannot ride your bike there if it is more than a 125cc yourself, you'll need to get it delivered there and hope you pass. You will also need insurance and there are very few places that will insure a large capacity bike on L plates.
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ian3mith · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 18 Dec 2012 Karma :

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pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

So go do it yourself. Need an A2 bike though. Wink

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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :

I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

As an instructor, I wouldn't put a student forwards for tests until I was confident they could pass; though some; you JUST had to let them go fail, and find out for themselves!

If you have been held back on a 125, its probably for very good reason, and very little to do with the instructor keeping his appointment book filled.

Its April; sun is shining, and people are coming out in droves looking to get their licence ASAP so they can make the most of the summer on whatever fantasy bike they have in mind. And you don't become an instructor to get rich; believe me.

They do it for the love of and to to teach you stuff; but you can only lead a horse to water; and if you think you know better than chap that has been riding umpety years; makes a (meagre) living seeing umpety newbies a month, and teaching them to ride and pass tests...

Well, sort yourself a bike; get it to the test center; make sure you have an insurance cert for you to ride it to show the examiner, and see how you do.

Other wise; look beyond your wallet and ask WHAT are you REALLY doing training for?

Lessons are for LIFE not Licences
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pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

We make a point to all of our students. We do not teach you to pass your tests, we teach you to ride safely. More than what your test requires in our das course.

And as mike said, we do not do it for the money. It's not a lucrative business. I spent most of the winter sitting at home, we're starting to get busy now tho.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

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Instructor on my DAS course tried to talk me into going for my A2 license on day 1 (as they had a shortage of bikes). After day 2 he said I was basically definitely going to fail, day 3 I passed both tests so...

I'd be pi$$ed off as well having lessons on a 125 (assuming OP has previous experience). If you've been riding round on a 125 mod 2 shouldn't take that much training, mainly little things assuming your safe & competent on the road.
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ian3mith · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 18 Dec 2012 Karma :

i.p.phrealy · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2012 Karma :

I had 37 lessons for my car test in 1995, at £10 a go back then, even if you assume inflation in the 19 years since means that is £20 a lesson, that's £740.
I did my DAS a month ago, cost £510.
passed my MOD1 with 1 minor.
passed my MOD2 with 4 minors, 2 of them were caused by my nerves.
My instructor knew I would pass, it wasn't worth him taking me to the test centres otherwise.
yes, it's a hit to the wallet. but it's a worthwhile one.
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i.p.phrealy · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2012 Karma :

I had 37 lessons for my car test in 1995, at £10 a go back then, even if you assume inflation in the 19 years since means that is £20 a lesson, that's £740.
I did my DAS a month ago, cost £510.
passed my MOD1 with 1 minor.
passed my MOD2 with 4 minors, 2 of them were caused by my nerves.
My instructor knew I would pass, it wasn't worth him taking me to the test centres otherwise.
yes, it's a hit to the wallet. but it's a worthwhile one.
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it is impossible to lick your own elbow...
and if you just tried you need professional help.
Finally allowed a big bike 19/03/14!

Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :

Don't waste your breath I.P...
His tea cup be full of his own certainty, he has no capacity to accept any more wisdom, he merely requires confirmation of his own beliefs; sayeth Tau Master.
He gonna have to learn the hard way, by his own mistakes.
The greater pitty however, is that he is likely to make them with a full licence in his pocket; 'cos that is all he wants, and all he thinks he's paying for, and that that is confirmation enough, that he IS the master of motorcycle movement, endowed with innate natural talent, he believes himself to be.
Mere mortals like us that have had to work hard, maybe for decades to become good riders? Or paid all this money for lessons to get a licence? Well, we're just jealous we weren't born with the gift he has, or that we have had to 'waste' so much more money than him; and must feel the need to keep him in his place, so we don't feel humbled or stupid. Rolling Eyes

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pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

Every student I have had on a big bike conversion have found it easier. I guess its different strokes for different folks.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :