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Fladdem
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 21 Jun 2014    Post subject: Controlling drifts? Reply with quote

I was playing on my bike after work today, in the gravel section of the car park, there's a small jump and a mini hill-climb as well. Not bad for a very short loop, there's also a little wall about 2" foot tall that can be hopped up onto. Thumbs Up

Anyway, I was doing the loop I have created and I want to be able to drift the bike round across the gravel to head down the back of the other raised gravel car-park, towards the hill. I was getting the bike to slip, but it would then just snatch back into traction and stand me up before I could point it where I wanted properly.

The bikes a TTR 250 with a Dunlop MX51 Geomax on the back and a michelin AC10 on the front. The rear is quite worn, in fact so is the front.

How can I keep the back without traction? One time I lost it and went the whole way around, facing back the way I came. Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its not a spoof post....stand up and weight the outside peg to give the rear more traction as you counter steer.....or weight the inside peg if you want to kick it out more and turn the front in tighter....



.... never said it was easy tho!!!
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Fladdem
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bladerunner wrote:
if its not a spoof post....stand up and weight the outside peg to give the rear more traction as you counter steer.....or weight the inside peg if you want to kick it out more and turn the front in tighter....



.... never said it was easy tho!!!


Yeah, not easy, I went back to the works car-park yesterday, I came off. Laughing

So, if I want to slide further, I kept coming up short, put pressure on the inside?
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't apply any pressure to the bars.

Due to geometry the bike will go to the correct amount of counter steer for the slide naturally.

So once the back is sliding allow the bars to go wherever they want to go, and just hold the throttle steady, don't add or remove throttle, just hold it.

Oh, and practice, lots of it.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 23 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's all down to feel , and seat of the pants stuff, throw the rear end in with a little bit of throttle, and then control int on the throttle.
very hard to describe, just practise
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Fladdem
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 25 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks guys,

I don't want to go speedway style on it, but just if it kicks itself out when I'm not ready, learn how to control it.
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