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PostPosted: 09:24 - 30 Jun 2014    Post subject: Coulson to face re-trial. Reply with quote
Hope the stress gives you cancer, you sociopathic sack of shit. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 30 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just how much fuckin' tax-payer's money have these bastards cost us ?. Those sleazy slime bags of solicitors and barristers must have their private mansions packed to the gutters with luxury Range Rovers/Porsches/Ferraris/Maybachs/Lamborghinis etc etc. The probable end result being a cushy couple of years in Leyhill open nick with bent solicitors (are there any other kind ?) and coppers....Baah.
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I imagine Coulson has hocked himself up to the eyeballs to pay for the best barrister he could buy. Suh-weet! Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 30 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hetzer wrote:
I imagine Coulson has hocked himself up to the eyeballs to pay for the best barrister he could buy. Suh-weet! Thumbs Up Very Happy


Mr Murdoch is paying apparently!
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Personally I have no idea how that ginger cnut got away with it. She's as guilty as he is.

I guess thats what happens when your lawyer is related to the PM. Not that I am saying that the justice system is corrupt but if the cap fits and all that.
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 01 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If only you had a clue about the tripe you spout.

Firstly, his defence will be paid for by someone on his side - not the taxpayer.

Secondly, if you were facing the charges he was, and had the money/backing available that he does, would you or would you not do the exact same thing, and buy the best representation you could buy?


His defence might be, but the prosecution also takes on a silk when things get to that level and that gets paid for out of the public trough. Even disregarding the silk, the cost of a public prosecution like this one is astronomical. Important that money doesn't get used by the proles for legal aid though, so there's that.

That said, in reply to your second point, with his backing and background and obvious moral code, if I thought I could get off, I would probably try.

I don't though. I believe if you are going to play the game with the law, whether it's the law about speeding or the law about hacking communications, you have to recognise that the game has other players. If they catch you, you lose. The game then goes to the courts and if you lose there, well, you chose to play the game.

Accept responsibility for your actions, refuse liability for what you didn't.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 01 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spudly wrote:
Mk1GSF wrote:


If only you had a clue about the tripe you spout.

Firstly, his defence will be paid for by someone on his side - not the taxpayer.

Secondly, if you were facing the charges he was, and had the money/backing available that he does, would you or would you not do the exact same thing, and buy the best representation you could buy?


His defence might be, but the prosecution also takes on a silk when things get to that level and that gets paid for out of the public trough. Even disregarding the silk, the cost of a public prosecution like this one is astronomical. Important that money doesn't get used by the proles for legal aid though, so there's that.

That said, in reply to your second point, with his backing and background and obvious moral code, if I thought I could get off, I would probably try.

I don't though. I believe if you are going to play the game with the law, whether it's the law about speeding or the law about hacking communications, you have to recognise that the game has other players. If they catch you, you lose. The game then goes to the courts and if you lose there, well, you chose to play the game.

Accept responsibility for your actions, refuse liability for what you didn't.


My point exactly.....prosecution barrister(s), their clerks (several), investigators (several), police investigators (?), technical consultants (probably large company, blank cheques), C.P.S....never ending costs paid for by tax-payers and if these shits plead poverty we pick up their huge bills too.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 01 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mk1GSF wrote:
Ed Case wrote:
Just how much fuckin' tax-payer's money have these bastards cost us ?. Those sleazy slime bags of solicitors and barristers must have their private mansions packed to the gutters with luxury Range Rovers/Porsches/Ferraris/Maybachs/Lamborghinis etc etc. The probable end result being a cushy couple of years in Leyhill open nick with bent solicitors (are there any other kind ?) and coppers....Baah.


If only you had a clue about the tripe you spout.

Firstly, his defence will be paid for by someone on his side - not the taxpayer.

Secondly, if you were facing the charges he was, and had the money/backing available that he does, would you or would you not do the exact same thing, and buy the best representation you could buy?



But the police investigation and CPS case was paid for by taxpayers.

Then there is the jury, their pay and expenses is covered.


The taxpayers cost is not fully recovered from the guilty party. And when the defence wins, none of the costs are recovered
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Ignorance of the law is no defence. If he walks it's another nail in the coffin of this country's justice system.

"Sorry yer 'onour. I didn't know regicide was illegal..." - yeah nice try.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
So he's trying to argue that he's stupid as well as morally bankrupt. What a coward.

Coulson, you got caught doing something that anyone with half a brain cell knows is morally wrong, whether it's technically illegal or not. You know you're a piece of shit as much as anyone else does so shut up and serve your time. I'll enjoy not reading your snivelly autobiography afterwards.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mk1GSF wrote:
Ed Case wrote:

My point exactly.....prosecution barrister(s), their clerks (several), investigators (several), police investigators (?), technical consultants (probably large company, blank cheques), C.P.S....never ending costs paid for by tax-payers and if these shits plead poverty we pick up their huge bills too.


And where do all these 'mansions full of flash cars' come into it, out of curiosity? From the CPS wages? Pffft.


From exorbitant charges to the public purse. From my own experience some years ago at the Old Bailey the costs of employing a QC plus various 'helpers' was staggering beyond belief.
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His lawyers are arguing that nobody at News Of The World knew that phone hacking was illegal when they were doing it..


As I was once reminded by a cunt in a wig Ignorance of the law is not a defence.
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Blimey! Some heated debate going on here for sure.

Personally I don't give a damn either way.

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18 months, out in 9.

Who wants to bet that it will a Cat D prison?
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Mk1GSF wrote:
Ed Case wrote:

From exorbitant charges to the public purse. From my own experience some years ago at the Old Bailey the costs of employing a QC plus various 'helpers' was staggering beyond belief.


As defendant?

You are aware of the sweeping reforms/fuck ups that Grayling has implemented, yes?

If the wages from the CPS are that great, why is there not a mass of solicitors and barristers queueing up to pitch for the work?


I'm not sure on the finer details of the legal system here, but from what I could figure out from a conversation with a friend (newly qualified solicitor) barristers generally earn a pretty consistent and standard salary regardless of the work they do, whether it is public defence or prosecution for the CPS. The chambers will get more money for private defence but that doesn't always go to the barristers.

This was during a once-a-year catchup after a few bottles of wine so I may not be remembering as well as if I was sober
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PostPosted: 07:18 - 05 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
deeds wrote:
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His lawyers are arguing that nobody at News Of The World knew that phone hacking was illegal when they were doing it..


As I was once reminded by a cunt in a wig Ignorance of the law is not a defence.


Which is why Full Sutton is full of kids. Wait what.
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Monday: Bloke engages in some activity that's not illegal.

Week later, the activity's made illegal. No public notification given.

Following Monday: Bloke gets arrested for engaging in said activity again.

"WTF?!"

"Ignorance is no defence matey."

The arrogance of the law is truly breath-taking.

But when it applies to an activity that is clearly immoral/wrong by just about any decent person's standard, illegal or not, tough titty.

Very few decent people about though.
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