It's a doggy/catty/pet petition...

[pdg]

Well, I'm just going to say it....

Sign, dammit - you know it makes sense.

https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62490

https://i.imgur.com/s36lA3M.jpg
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Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you.

[GhostRider]

Or maybe have a petition for owners to take better care/precautions to ensure their pet doesn't run away.

Seriously where the fuck is the time and money coming from to document, record, scan, track and trace all roadkill?

One day I hope the tax system will be all digital, in the sense that it will itemize what your tax contributions go towards, and you can opt out of ones that you don't think are worthwhile. That way only the shit that really matters to everyone will get funding, whereas stupid shit like this will wither and die as it should.

I'm not trying to be heartless here, yeah its sad that their dog died, but it seems like one persons crusade to find someone to blame for the fact their dogs dead, instead of taking a look in the mirror and accept that, either through their own incompetence, or a case of "shit happens" their dog did a bunk and met an unfortunate fate.

GhostRider
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[pdg]

They aren't blaming the highways agency for the death of the dog - maybe read a little before being a cunt?

Oh, sorry - just realised who I'm replying to.

There are (mostly ignored) procedures in place for the scanning of domestic animals killed on the roads, and what with the moves to make chipping of pets mandatory it's a farce that the scanning isn't mandatory as well.
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Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you.

[Ste]

Online petitions? Power to the people!!!!

Oh wait, they don't achieve anything other than giving internet people the illusion to think that they're doing something that'll make a difference.

[GhostRider]

[pdg]

So is it safe to assume you've never had a pet, or at least one that got lost with no apparent trace?

Thing is, all the 'law' would do is to enforce what is already supposed to happen.
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Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you.

[GhostRider]

Have/have had plenty of pets ta muchly.

And yeah, Rambo went missing one day never to return, looked for him for ages, asked around, the fact that he was 17yrs old and had been displaying strange behavior for weeks did make me think he did what cats do, and found somewhere to die alone, but I'll never know.

I'll tell you what I didn't do - bawwww about it like it was someone elses responsibility.


GhostRider
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[GhostRider]

1.5/10 , please troll again.

GhostRider
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[Hetzer]

[pdg]

It wasn't a troll, you'd know if it was...

But, the point is, you cared enough to have a look, you cared enough to ask around.

If he had been killed on the road, would it not have been nice to have been informed? Essentially, it is only to enforce 'best practice' procedures that really should already be followed.

Maybe that little bit flew past you because instead of actually reading what it is about, you jumped to the 'blame culture' conclusion.

It's not about blame, it's about information. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?
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Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you.

[Hetzer]

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Ask them to do it?
Sure.

Legislation?
Hell no.

I particularly dislike knee jerk requests for a more authoritarian society from people that have made mistakes that others make more effort not to.

How much are you willing to personally pay to ensure this is carried out?

[Ben90]

Scenario: pet runs away and heads for the nearest, busiest piece of motorway and causing a clusterfuck - or maybe just smash the front bumper on a lorry. Highways Agency spend many taxpayer's monies testing the remaining smear on the road, trace it to you, send you the remains along with a large fine or even a court summons for letting your animal loose on a public highway.

Oh, and they also inform the third party who send you a bill or claim against you.

I'd rather keep quiet.
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[Rogue_Shadow]

Ok ... I don't get it

After reading the first post in great detail, it sounds like the ultimate goal of the petition is

[pdg]

I take the view that I already pay for it to be done because it's already supposed to happen.

Ben90 - do you really think it costs "many taxpayer's monies" to run a scanner over an animal? In any case, you can be damn sure that if it causes a 'clusterfuck' they'll be there with the scanner...

Anyway, it's not 'my' petition. If anyone really wants to know more about it then I suggest reading the blurb thingy.
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[daemonoid]

[pdg]

[J4mes]

So who scans the animal, makes the report, circulates the report and makes it pose for pictures to be held on file for ID purposes?

I'd rather they were out fixing the fucking potholes.

Dog owner btw, but mine can't get out of the garden, even if she could she doesn't leave the driveway and has a near perfect whistle, voice and hand signal recall.

[pdg]

[J4mes]

Where did I say that?

[pdg]

It's how your "it can't get out, etc." statement read to me. Like "it can't escape, and even if it could, it would be easy to get back".

I have now exhausted my knowledge of the subject. If anyone else would like to find answers to questions they may have there are links (or at least signposts) on the picturey thingy. Any more questions/opinions directed at me will get one of the following responses, chosen almost at random:

1. I don't know, look it up.

2. Your opinion means less to me than the price of quorn.

3. You are obviously thick, look it up.

4. Let me find out for you - j/k, fuck off and look it up.

5. Your opinion will be gratefully received by the next available operator, you are currently no.12 in the queue.


Sign it / don't sign it, it's entirely your decision.
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[stinkwheel]

In my experience. I find (an anecdotal) 50% of the "found" animals which come into my posession which are microchipped do not have the owners details up to date on the microchip database.

Total waste of my and my staffs time and effort and why I see no benefit to moves to make chipping compulsory.

I can imagine someone who's been tasked with scanning stuff that's been scraped off the road would very rapidly become jaded with the entire process. Half the time they'd be calling someone who's garaunteed to be deeply upset (something a binman is ill trained to deal with) and the other half of the time, they'd be wasting their time anyway because the owners have moved house.

On a purely personal note (because it's something that REALLY annoys the fuck out of me). If such a law DID come into force. It should also be made mandatory that the owner of the animal in question is responsible for the cost of cleanup and disposal of their animals remains along with any damage their straying resulted in.

So if I get called out at 3am to attend a dying dog who's been splatted on the road to euthanaise and dispose of it. It should be the animals owners clear responsability to pay for that service rather than doing a runner and claiming the've moved house when they hear it's incurred a £200 bill for an out of hours visit, sedation, euthanaisia and disposal.
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Not helped that the chip companies seem to be 'in it for the money' and make it far from simple to change details.