NIP...:/

[Crazy-Duck]

Good morning all

Sort of a long winded one but I’ll cut it down as much as possible.
The morning of my MOD 2 myself, a man doing his test that day and our instructor went out for a sort of mock test in the morning. And as I’m sure you are all aware you go where the instructor tells you to go. Riding down a road and there was a handful of police standing there. Didn’t think much of it at the time. Until over a month after I passed I received a letter, Notice of Intent to Prosecute, apparently that stretch of road is a temporary bus lane between 7:30 and 9:30am. We rode down there at 9:12.
I replied to the original letter within a few weeks but I had another through the post this morning saying they never received the first one and if I don’t reply to this one within 7 days of the date on the letter they will take me to court over it.
With a maximum fine of £1000 and 6 points on my first licence I am looking at fighting it. My main fighting point will be that I was under instruction, following directions and that nowhere on the hire bike I was riding was there a clock.

I am going to accompany the NIP with a letter saying I wish to appeal the charges. But I have no idea what to put into it.
I need to reply and get it sent today.

Any advice would be much appreciated
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[Kris]

What's the punishment if you accept the bribe Fixed penalty?
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[Crazy-Duck]

box at the bottom of the letter

" Under section 172 of teh road traffic act 1988 you are required to supply the information requested abovewithin 28 days beginning with the date of service. on conviction for failure to supply the informatiuon, the penalty carries a maximum of £1000= 6 penalty points"
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[map]

So this is just tell us who was riding then?
So they can then send the bribe amount fine to the right person?

You haven't actually got any court papers?

Did you get any proof of posting for the original?
Bet you will for this one.
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[Kris]

Right first of all you have received a Section 172 - which you should fill out and return asap or you will be taken to court and fined.

A section 172 is basically their way of identifying who was riding that vehicle at that particular time. Fill it out and return it and see what they come back with.

[edit] Oh and as Map says, get a proof of postage this time okay?
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[Monkeypony]

[Rogerborg]

[Bubblin77]

I thought riding in a bus lane was £70, with no points,
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[DrSnoosnoo]

Racist
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[yen_powell]

Ahhh, the old fixed penalty notice lesson ploy.

If you put up pics of all signage and road markings I might see a technical get out you can use as grounds for appeal.
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[Crazy-Duck]

I cant get pics up because I'm at work, I have taken a screen shot from google earth. signage is crap, and I have shown to several people and they had to read it a few times to understand it.

Unfortunatly unless i wait till monday I wont be able to get proof of purchase, I'm working today till 5 and tomorrow 9-5.
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[Crazy-Duck]

If any of you would like to look it up it is Grove Road through to Brazengate, Norwich.
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[skatefreak]

I think his argument is less about the 'being under instruction' and more so that the temp lane is in effect untill 9:30 however the vehicle he was in did not have a clock and therefore makes it a little difficult to judge the time accurately.

Not likely to get you off the hook however again may contribute to mitigating as well.

Still need to weigh up the lesser of two evils...

Fine/Points VS Fine/Points/Victim surcharge?

-Jvr

[Crazy-Duck]

I'd prefer not to have any fine or points. This is my first licence and if i get 6(or more?) points in my first 2 years they will take it away from me and I'll have to re-do my test!
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[mattyfattyboo...]

Bus lane infringements are non-endorsable

[mentalboy]

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[mentalboy]

[mattyfattyboo...]

[yen_powell]

Do you mean this one?

https://goo.gl/maps/H3CAI

Get a picture of it set to the bus only face so I can have a look, because the two warning signs leading up to it aren't right, so they may have messed that one up making it non compliant.
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[shereen]

[Crazy-Duck]

I have a pic of the sign nice an clear on my phone. Just my phone won't let me upload it on here. :/
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[Crazy-Duck]

Ok. Gonna try this....
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[yen_powell]

It's not actually a bus lane, it's a bus gate sign on the advance warning signage.
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