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PostPosted: 21:04 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

He pulls in viewers, that and the others have got nothing to say.

The BBC is most definitely not impartial. Don't get me wrong, US networks are in a different league for biased misrepresentation but the BBC aren't free of agenda.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/page/guidelines-impartiality-introduction
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SNP are the 3rd biggest party in the Uk with over 100,000 members
they have 6 times more MP's in Westminster than Ukip ??

I seen the BBC's Bias first hand during the referendum totally shocking coverage
mostly on Scameron, Clegg and Miliband when they made their plea's and flying visits
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 13 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MPs aren't an accurate measure of support, they are a measure of concentration of support. The Greens have an MP... the MP for the gay village in Brighton. UKIP until recently had no MPs, but support hovering around 20% of the population. The SNP is an important party in Scotland, but it is irrelevant in the rest of the UK, hence why the media are discussing leaders debates for Scotland and Wales which will feature the Nationalist Parties in Scotland and Wales.

If we look at a broad range of results UKIP does seem to be doing very well, be it the European elections, council elections, and by-elections. In the two recent by-elections they came first and a very close second. They were 600 votes from taking a safe Labour seat last week, that from a standing start with about 3% of the vote. Few parties could achieve that in any given random seat. The media say it's 4 party politics because they are in love with the Lib Dems, but practically it seems to be two party politics in the South between Conservative and UKIP, and two party politics in the North between Labour and UKIP. Northerners voting Conservative are splitting the UKIP vote, and Southerners voting Labour are splitting the UKIP vote.

It's funny how many in denial Tories there are who so desperately want to believe Dave Cameron in Eurosceptic, when he is very openly pro-EU! The Tories do of course have Eurosceptic members, but Dave is not one of them.

Heywood by-election
Labour: 11,633
UKIP: 11,016
Con: 3,996
Lib Dem: 1,457
Green: 870

Clacton by-election
UKIP: 21,113
Con: 8,703
Lab: 3,957
Green: 688
Lib Dem: 483 (Lost their deposit)
Monster Raving Loony Party: 127
Prostitute (Independent): 56

Oh and the EU is not a conspiracy... they aren't hiding anything.

Here's the leader of the ALDE giving his views on Dave's renegotiations. This is the party Nick Clegg was in when he was an MEP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3XZJ4znl00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsZhFrqkfcM

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Although I think Farage probably has the award for the most popular speech ever given in the Euro Parliament Thumbs Up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdoMssKv38o
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 14 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Here's the leader of the ALDE giving his views on Dave's renegotiations.

Strength through unity, eh?

Funny that he's ranting in English. You're welcome, Belgie.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 15 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unrealistic to expect anyone (or any article done by someone) to be impartial. They will always be influenced by what they think about, or see in, a story. Noone can write anything truly impartial.

They can say what they want about impartiality, but you really do have to be daft to believe it.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 15 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_F wrote:
It's unrealistic to expect anyone (or any article done by someone) to be impartial. They will always be influenced by what they think about, or see in, a story. Noone can write anything truly impartial.

They can say what they want about impartiality, but you really do have to be daft to believe it.


Agreed, but they should at least air counter views.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 15 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sload wrote:

Agreed, but they should at least air counter views.


Well if you want to pay for at least 2 people (obviously of different leanings) to write up on every news story, by all means...

Or you could just watch a few different channels and make your own mind up.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_F wrote:
Sload wrote:

Agreed, but they should at least air counter views.


Well if you want to pay for at least 2 people (obviously of different leanings) to write up on every news story, by all means...

Or you could just watch a few different channels and make your own mind up.


Or just stop advertising most BBC jobs in the Guardian. They have 23,000 employees, most of them lefty socialists.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guardian is indeed left leaning but at least somewhat reasoned. The Daily Sociali........Mirror is a horrendous read. Ranting and cherry picking all the time. Worse than the daily mail.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the lefty bias is ingrained due to positive discrimination (they actively recruit those from minorities) and they tend to pick staff from left wing bias advertising (as said previously).

I would also say they are lazy, taking press releases and just regurgitating them without question!
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PostPosted: 03:33 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a nice example

Dan Hannan wrote:
'Hello, it’s the BBC here. We’d like you to come on our programme and be angry, ranting and preferably racist.”

All right, that’s not exactly how they put it, but they might as well. In the past six months, I’ve been asked on air to attack gay marriage, Lords reform and Sayeeda Warsi. The conversation always goes the same way. When it becomes clear that I’m not going to ham up the part of an irascible and incoherent Right-winger, they researcher breaks in impatiently with: “Right, let me just have a quick word with my editor and I’ll get back to you.”

The last time, my patience snapped. A girl from Radio 5 Live wanted me to come on air to talk about the House of Lords. We had arranged when and where to do the interview before she said: “Can I just check that you’re in favour of the current system?”

“Well, no. I think that a legislative chamber appointed by the executive is the worst of all worlds. I wrote a piece about it in this morning’s Daily Telegraph. Isn’t that why you were calling?”

“Oh, er, right. Well let me just have a quick word with my editor…”

“Seriously, wouldn’t it have been quicker to Google my views than to dig out my number and spend 10 minutes on the phone?”

“I’m really sorry if I’ve wasted your time.”

“Does anyone at the BBC read the Telegraph?”

Silly question. We now have the official figures and it turns out that, by some margin, the most popular paper at the BBC is the Guardian. A Freedom of Information request from the online news site, The Commentator, revealed that, while most of the other dailies are clustered together at between 40,000 and 50,000 copies procured by the BBC, the Guardian is up at 59,829. That figure suggests that, while newsrooms automatically buy all the papers, Beeb employees order the Guardian for themselves.

All right, all right, there needs no ghost, my Lord, come from the grave to tell us this. The BBC places three quarters of its staff recruitment advertisements in the Guardian. You quickly learn, in politics, that putting a story in those pages is the surest way to get it on air.


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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9475479/Heres-how-we-counter-the-BBCs-liberal-bias.html
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PostPosted: 07:38 - 17 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rightie: Your opinions are too wrong and dangerous to be heard.

Leftie: I'm impartial but your opinions are too wrong and dangerous to be heard.

In the final analysis, lefties are just more verbose dictators.
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