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CVSensei
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Is an MT-07 Suitable for my first 'big' bike? Reply with quote
Aloha!

So I've been riding a 125 for half a year or so now for the commute to work and have officially caught the bug! Fingers crossed I will be A2 roadworthy beginning of 2015.

I'm set on a naked bike and the MT-07 is my current favourite (among the ER-6f, Z800E, XJ6 and CB650F). I've been watching endless videos and reading copious reviews, seems like exactly what I'm looking for I'm just wary of the actual raw power of the engine (even though it will be restricted).. So many wheelies!!!

I'm not a hooligan but its clearly a massive jump so it's kinda intimidating.. Any advice/feedback/reassurance would be most welcome!!

If you think any of the other models would be better suited please let me know Smile

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Is an MT-07 Suitable for my first 'big' bike? Reply with quote
CVSensei wrote:
I'm set on a naked bike


Street Triple?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Is an MT-07 Suitable for my first 'big' bike? Reply with quote
CVSensei wrote:
I'm just wary of the actual raw power of the engine (even though it will be restricted).. So many wheelies!!!


only if you're properly cack handed with it, otherwise it will be perfectly usable and fine for a first bike. Be sensible, and it'll be sensible back
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Matt B- Have always been tempted by a Street Triple its just slightly out of my price range.. I was aiming for between 4-7grand this time around.. Then invest in a beast after a couple of years on this.

arry - Well that's reassuring to hear that.. It's just nearly every video I've watched very experienced riders involuntarily pull wheelies.. Just worries me that I'm so used to giving the 125 all its got and this would just need a twitch to fly out from under me!
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: Is an MT-07 Suitable for my first 'big' bike? Reply with quote
CVSensei wrote:

I'm not a hooligan yet but will clearly being doing massive wheelies, stoppies and rolling burnouts


FTFY

The bike is meant to comply with A2 license (once restricted), so the makers have designed it to be perfectly suited to new riders (as well as anyone else).

Don't worry about the extra oomph, just focus on how awesome it will be and getting your test sorted if that's what you want.

Once passed and purchased, don't ride like a knob and you'll be fine.....for the first week, then you'll spend most of your time on one wheel Smile
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haha serious double take then..

Point taken, I did hear though that restrictions are mainly only at high speed/revs and the low end performance is basically the same which is what got me worrying. But cheers, the MT-07 is what I want I think I just need some encouraging!
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
CVSensei wrote:
It's just nearly every video I've watched very experienced riders involuntarily pull wheelies.. Just worries me that I'm so used to giving the 125 all its got and this would just need a twitch to fly out from under me!


No such thing as involuntary wheelie - unintentional maybe, but you're the ones making the inputs. Luz the throttle wide open fast in 1st and 2nd whilst sitting on the back of the bike and yeah you're going to be pointing skywards; feed the power in progressively and lean forward and you're not going to have the front wheel leaving the ground.

It seems like a big jump; it IS a big jump, but it's not an insurmountable mountainous chasm jump and 99.9% of the ability to make the step up is you having the right attitude and restraint.

Besides, the bike's not a vicious pyscho kitten killer Smile

In short - you'll be fine Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you sir, this what i needed to hear. You have me sold! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
MC wrote:
I've heard people call the a MT-03 a wheelie machine, in fact it's hard to find a picture of it online without the front wheel in the air, but despite going from a 125 onto one (so still grabbing fists full of throttle) I never once got the front wheel up.

Two conclusions can be drawn from this; a) I suck and b) it's down to you whether you wheelie everywhere. A restricted parallel twin is going to be boring, rather than an unwieldy beast Razz

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PostPosted: 19:39 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
MC wrote:
I've heard people call the a MT-03


Out of interest.....how did you get on with that? I've been looking for light chuckable and cheap bikes with good MPG to see me through a semi urban commute. Fit the bill?
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
You don't say how much you are looking to spend, but for less than £4k brand new Suzuki SV650's have to be the bargain of the century for a first "big bike".

Most dealers are knocking £1000 off RRP. Cheapest I have seen is £3,895.

https://prestonmotorcycles.com/bikedetail.php?id=181
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
£4k got me this.

https://i.imgur.com/xPL5VQ9.jpg

Perfectly fine as a first bike, used is far nicer than brand new, they changed the headlights to homosex ones.

It is very sedate on the road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzMQQ5_My4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdZUvipqleE

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https://i61.tinypic.com/jrbiia.jpg

Buy one Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
In B4 Paddy harping on about the Street Triple................^ Oh.......
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
In B4 Paddy harping on about the Street Triple................^ Oh.......


Laughing

You KNOW you need one in your life..
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paddy. wrote:


Laughing

You KNOW you need one in your life..


True, how well do they crash? Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not sure Shifty
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paddy. wrote:
Not sure Shifty


Well, the way my track record is going, it wouldn't be long until I found out. Razz
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paddy. wrote:
£4k got me this.

https://i.imgur.com/xPL5VQ9.jpg


Similarly, £4.3k got me this.

https://i.imgur.com/HUGc6Ht.jpg

Not technically A2 legal, but it's on the DFT list of bikes you can ride on A2, so should be fine. I'm on A2, just keep a printout of the webpage in my wallet. Awesome bike, love it to bits.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
When I was a young lad:)and still a learner I used to jump on mates bigger bikes quite often and give them some stick.
My girlfriend jumped from a 125 to a 750.
I guess some really torguey or heavy bikes or bikes with a feet back leant over bars riding position might take some getting used to but on the whole anyone who's spent enough time on a 125 will be able to ride a big bike fine.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Albigularis wrote:


Similarly, £4.3k got me this.

https://i.imgur.com/HUGc6Ht.jpg

Not technically A2 legal, but it's on the DFT list of bikes you can ride on A2, so should be fine. I'm on A2, just keep a printout of the webpage in my wallet. Awesome bike, love it to bits.


How's the arrow exhaust on your bike? If (when) I get myself a street triple, I'll want the lowboy exhaust - the only thing I'm not keen on are the twin under seat pipes on the early models (and the dials on the very very early bikes).
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Wednesday Biker wrote:
My girlfriend jumped from a 125 to a 750.


What 750cc motorcycle?

I mean, there are motorcycles that are nice to ride, then there are motorcycles that, if ridden by certain people, can be very dangerous no matter what displacement the engine has. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 16 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
TallPaul_S wrote:
Albigularis wrote:


Similarly, £4.3k got me this.

https://i.imgur.com/HUGc6Ht.jpg

Not technically A2 legal, but it's on the DFT list of bikes you can ride on A2, so should be fine. I'm on A2, just keep a printout of the webpage in my wallet. Awesome bike, love it to bits.


How's the arrow exhaust on your bike? If (when) I get myself a street triple, I'll want the lowboy exhaust - the only thing I'm not keen on are the twin under seat pipes on the early models (and the dials on the very very early bikes).


The exhaust is great. It's loud enough to be heard but not loud enough to get you instantly pulled over. Sounds like an F1 car at high revs in the city between buildings. It's not a road legal exhaust though and you can't even fit a baffle or anything to make it road legal if you so desired. The fuelling gets a bit funny if you don't change it though, very lumpy at around 2-2.5k when held there, so only for very very slow stuff.

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^ that colour, but with gold forks, is pretty much my dream bike right now.

Dam you all, stop posting photo's Laughing


It's up for sale just now if you want it Laughing. Trying to get something a bit less 'revvy' as it's not quite my style, or maybe something adventure-ish.
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