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Dave M
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 19 Oct 2014    Post subject: Strong smell of oil while idling? Reply with quote

Following on from previous problem with stripped thread on oil flow bolt I've noticed when sat at lights etc there is a very strong smell of FRESH oil coming from the bike. Ive just put new oil in and no leaks etc. I've checked level and seems ok. I was thinking if it was over filled with oil it would be coming from breather pipe? What do you think this might be? A little concerned as I've never come across this before?! Advice greatly appreciated. Cheers.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 19 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any chance some oil dripped on the exhaust system? That would make your bike smell of oil at idle = not moving, smell goes up to your nose. Once in move the air is taking the smell behind the motorcycle so you can't smell it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 19 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Is there any chance some oil dripped on the exhaust system? That would make your bike smell of oil at idle = not moving, smell goes up to your nose. Once in move the air is taking the smell behind the motorcycle so you can't smell it. Thumbs Up


I was thinking that but I have it a good clean since its been fixed? I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 19 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it was oil smell? Could be even burning/melting plastic/rubber parts of the bike.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 19 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Is there any chance some oil dripped on the exhaust system? That would make your bike smell of oil at idle = not moving, smell goes up to your nose. Once in move the air is taking the smell behind the motorcycle so you can't smell it. Thumbs Up


I was thinking that but I have it a good clean since its been fixed? I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 19 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Are you sure it was oil smell? Could be even burning/melting plastic/rubber parts of the bike.


Reason I think it's oil is because it smells exactly as it does in the bottle! Could be something else but what? Nothing near the exhaust that could be burning like fairings or hoses! Strange one! Could it be something internal?
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GZs used to stink of cheapish mineral. Put some shell advance ultra in after a change and thereabouts odourless. My garage uses Motul 5100 which has a strong fruity smell. It really reeks. It was particularly bad after they did the valve clearences and spilt oil on the exhaust headers. Worst after a ride and turned off, so I'm guessing that a load of smelly and volatile compounds get forced through the breather tube into the airbox. Occasionally there's a little thin oil in the bottom of the airbox, which is linked with the most smell and being slightly over full of oil.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
My GZs used to stink of cheapish mineral. Put some shell advance ultra in after a change and thereabouts odourless. My garage uses Motul 5100 which has a strong fruity smell. It really reeks. It was particularly bad after they did the valve clearences and spilt oil on the exhaust headers. Worst after a ride and turned off, so I'm guessing that a load of smelly and volatile compounds get forced through the breather tube into the airbox. Occasionally there's a little thin oil in the bottom of the airbox, which is linked with the most smell and being slightly over full of oil.


Checked air box and it's clean in there. I'll give exhaust another clean! What's best to use? I'll monitor it and get back.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a radiator style oil cooler? My Sprint ST many years ago had similar issues, turned out there was a tiny oozing leak on the oil cooler.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

garethjv wrote:
Do you have a radiator style oil cooler? My Sprint ST many years ago had similar issues, turned out there was a tiny oozing leak on the oil cooler.


It's liquid cooled. No oil cooler.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 20 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

weedave wrote:
garethjv wrote:
Do you have a radiator style oil cooler? My Sprint ST many years ago had similar issues, turned out there was a tiny oozing leak on the oil cooler.


It's liquid cooled. No oil cooler.


What's the bike? The ST is liquid cooled too but it has an oil cooler radiator bolted on top of the water radiator.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 21 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

my old cg 125 gets a new oil smell for a while after changing the oil

i always thought the smell came from the crank breather Smile
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 21 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondakawasaki wrote:
my old cg 125 gets a new oil smell for a while after changing the oil

i always thought the smell came from the crank breather Smile


Not been out last couple of days. Will be out tomorrow and I'll see if it's still the same. It's a Yamaha r125!
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PostPosted: 05:01 - 22 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil on an exhaust is usually gone pretty quick. Every bike I've had has had the oil filter cover over part of the exhaust, and it always spills. A wipe with a rag and a few minutes ride is sufficient to kill the smell. Cleaning of the exhaust is muc off and a hose followed up with acf50 overspray when dry, so replacing one oily smell with another. Now that i think about it, when the 535 was seeping oil out of the filter cover due to an expired o-ring she stank way worse than usual.

Have you overfilled with oil, have you used the correct procedure to check, your owners manual (download one if you don't have it) will tell you what is required, but run bike until warm, turn off and wait 5 minutes is often the correct procedure. If I check the level immediately after turning engine off then it reads low. More so when I had a 125 when the difference between not enough and too much oil was about half a panda-pop bottle (100ml?). No prizes for guessing what I carried a spalsh of oil in for the GZ that drank oil.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 22 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just check the air filter. Most breathers feed into the air box and the vapour is sucked into, and burnt by the normal running of the engine. Over time a lining of crud seems to settle in the bottom of the box. Check how much vapour is being pushed out the breather while the engine is running.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 22 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
Just check the air filter. Most breathers feed into the air box and the vapour is sucked into, and burnt by the normal running of the engine. Over time a lining of crud seems to settle in the bottom of the box. Check how much vapour is being pushed out the breather while the engine is running.


Cleaned air box before I did all this and there was a little bit in there. I've checked air filter again since but it's bone dry. I also wait 5+ mins to let oil settle down again and all seems ok as in amount wise. Stumped! Could smell it again today. Bike had a gold clean last night. Nothing on exhaust or no oil spilled on engine when changing. I'll keep checking OR am I just paranoid? Bike runs perfectly so I'll carry on as normal! Actually I shouldn't have said that should I?! Thanks all.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 22 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike had a spot of corrosion or muck stopping the oil filter forming a good seal against the bike which was allowing a little bit of oil to spray onto the exhaust which would then burn off with a load of smoke coming up from behind the dash - usually happened when queuing for a hill start.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 22 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you possibly confusing the oil smell with that created by the catalytic convertor built into the exhaust on the R125? the smell is much the same as engine oil and common to small capacity engines fitted with a cat due to the high temps they operate at.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 23 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonzoomer wrote:
Are you possibly confusing the oil smell with that created by the catalytic convertor built into the exhaust on the R125? the smell is much the same as engine oil and common to small capacity engines fitted with a cat due to the high temps they operate at.


It only started after the recent oil change. Bike seems fine so just going to put it down to paranoia. Thanks for all the replies guys. Look out for my next problem 😉
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

weedave wrote:
moonzoomer wrote:
Are you possibly confusing the oil smell with that created by the catalytic convertor built into the exhaust on the R125? the smell is much the same as engine oil and common to small capacity engines fitted with a cat due to the high temps they operate at.


It only started after the recent oil change. Bike seems fine so just going to put it down to paranoia. Thanks for all the replies guys. Look out for my next problem 😉


Right, this is still happening. Bike stalled Embarassed on me yesterday going up my driveway from 1st gear. I then got a very strong smell. Maybe this smell is a burning smell as in burning clutch smell? I have been talking to a couple of work mates who know a thing or two about bikes and they've both mentioned it could be the clutch wearing/burning out?! Now today I have been slipping the clutch to see if I could get the smell and I did every time! Could it be? Am I looking at new friction plates or more? Friction plates and new gasket cost just shy of £30 so I hope this may well sort the problem. What do you guys think? Cheers.
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