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thx1138
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: low tech navigation aid wanted Reply with quote

Can anyone suggest a low tech solution instead of taking a Sat Nav or GPX gizmo?

I want some sort of waterproof paper, and permanent marker combo.

Planning a byways ride tomorrow, weather looks grim. My notes will probably get soggy as will my map, if it's not blown about. I know I could get a water proof OS map, but I have loads of maps and can't afford to change them all.

Would like a way to write notes on route on a sheet of plastic or something, that won't smudge or wash off, and is cheap and hardwaring. Don't need to clean it off, if I can throw it away, though recycling preferable.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thx1138
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, always ends up wet and smudged in the end, though it's the best I can do for now is that

fords, UCRs on rivers, dropped in muddy puddles, crash it and it rips and the paper dissolves.
I've tried writing on the plastic folders themselves though, but don't stay on.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
yeah, always ends up wet and smudged in the end, though it's the best I can do for now is that

fords, UCRs on rivers, dropped in muddy puddles, crash it and it rips and the paper dissolves.
I've tried writing on the plastic folders themselves though, but don't stay on.


write in pencil, doesn't run when its wet
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

99p store: whiteboard, tape, permanent marker and alcohol hand gel.

£3.97
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: low tech navigation aid wanted Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
Can anyone suggest a low tech solution instead of taking a Sat Nav or GPX gizmo? yadda yadda yak yak yak stuff about going out on the bike tomorrow.


Use a compass Thumbs Up

Or stay indoors and save you and your bike from getting wet and dirty Smile


Once again the great and wise Pepperami comes up with a helpful solution!
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
yeah, always ends up wet and smudged in the end, though it's the best I can do for now is that

fords, UCRs on rivers, dropped in muddy puddles, crash it and it rips and the paper dissolves.
I've tried writing on the plastic folders themselves though, but don't stay on.


if you're putting your bike through that then you could just get a chinagraph pencil and write on the tank,

bit of solvent (something like white spirt) should bring it right off again
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thx1138
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah could write on the tank I suppose Very Happy

I already have a compass Thumbs Up

,(and a pump, and tools, and waterproofs, and a camel pack, and food, and maps, and a first aid kit, and a puncture repair kit, and duct tape, and copper wire, and electric tape, super glue, WD40 a whistle and an emergency blanket, spare gloves, and a torch and a swiss army knife) Laughing all stuffed into this...

https://www.motolegends.com/accessories/bags/ogio-flight-vest-black.html Thumbs Up

white board sounds like an idea, might well try that, I'm hoping I've memorised tomorrows route, what could possibly go wrong? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: low tech navigation aid wanted Reply with quote

Laminaters are cheap - I'd sometimes print off a relevant map/instructions and laminate it.

But then so are waterproof pouches for your phone, which solves a good few problems.

Neither may be practical for tomorrow - so permanent marker on a plastic sheet sounds reasonable Smile.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah as for my phone, that goes inside two zip lock freezer bags, and is tucked away

it really just hadn't even occurred to me to buy a laminator, that might just be the answer, top of the Christmas present list Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
yeah as for my phone, that goes inside two zip lock freezer bags, and is tucked away

With a proper bag you can have it on your yolks or similar and still use it.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it easier to write the instructions down and commit them to memory (but I do stash the hardcopy in the topbox just in case!)
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 07 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally use the clear plastic wallet gaffa taped to the bar pad and gaffa'd up. But, like you, if some wind can get in, it just blows the back end out and the paper gets ruined so I was looking for a better of bodging something on.

Although I like having to pull over and inspect maps and try to work out where I am.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 08 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just follow whatever is in front of you...
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PostPosted: 01:18 - 08 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinagraph washes off. I've tried it.

Bit of cardboard in a sandwich bag works ok.
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 08 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a tank bag with clear window on top, put your smartphone in it with a free satnav app on Smile

Thank me later Very Happy
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PostPosted: 02:30 - 08 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a compass or use nearby places/signposts as a reference. Know a rough estimate of the distance and direction.


Or follow someone that looks like they know where they are going. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 08 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Might only work if you're a 7' male model asking directions from a 6' female model, mind.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 08 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

camping shops sell waterproof map holders.
many will be open in the morning.
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