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turningCircle
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Dog ran out in front of me ... Reply with quote

Something happened today whilst riding and I thought I'd get your view on it. How would you have reacted?

Apologies for the size of the diagram below!

I was travelling in the direction of the blue arrow, to my left there were a number of parked cars (red dots). This was restricting my view around the corner. As a result, I decided to give my horn a quick few beeps, drop down a gear and slow slightly more than usual for the left bend.

As I come out of the other side of the corner, a man (yellow dot) loses control of his dogs lead, and the dog (orange dot!) comes running towards the front wheel of my motorcycle.
I had about a second to react and managed to do a counter-steer swerve job around the dog. In retrospect, I'm not sure I should have done this. As mad as it sounds - would I have been better just ploughing over the dog? I have dogs myself but I wouldn't risk my own life for a dog (apart from my own Rolling Eyes ).

After the swerve, I gradually accelerated away to get away from the dog. (Which was now chasing my back wheel).
To add insult to injury, the area of the road at which I had to swerve around the dog was slightly icy.

Breaking at this point would have been difficult due to the ice and I was given almost no time to react as the man / dog were right around the corner. There are also no pavements around this bend.

So I was wondering, what would you have done in this situation?

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PostPosted: 17:37 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you missed it and stayed upright you did ok.
I might have parked up and given the bloke a bollocking or kicked the dog or both
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
kicked to dog


You can fuck off as well.

It's a fucking animal, it doesn't have person level road sense.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hindsight is wonderful and natural reactions can be a pain.
I know when learning to drive was told don't swerve for any animals on the road (live in the sticks so rabbits, foxes, etc.). This is as you must stay in control.

However, natural reactions is to brake and/or swerve. So would probably done the same because that's how brain wired.

Thumbs Up on not losing it though. Could have been an interesting insurance claim if not Very Happy
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turningCircle
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:
raesewell wrote:
kicked to dog


You can fuck off as well.

It's a fucking animal, it doesn't have person level road sense.


You forgotten to take your anti-psychotics today sweetheart?
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What size dog? If we are talking Beethoven size ploughing through it may have ended in fail, however jack russel size would have just required some detailed cleaning.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:

I know when learning to drive was told don't swerve for any animals on the road (live in the sticks so rabbits, foxes, etc.). This is as you must stay in control.


So I can safely assume from that statement that you are referring to driving a car, not riding a bike and also that you have never hit an animal while riding a bike.

A decent sized rabbit will quite efficiently have most people off a bike, especially when cornering.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had similar in the past and swerved naturally, bloody thing was on an extenable lead so luckily I swerved the right side of the dog or the poor thing would have been hung and drawn.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I had similar in the past and swerved naturally, bloody thing was on an extenable lead so luckily I swerved the right side of the dog or the poor thing would have been hung and drawn.


Ouchy, good work Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
pdg wrote:


You can fuck off as well.

It's a fucking animal, it doesn't have person level road sense.


You forgotten to take your anti-psychotics today sweetheart?


I agree with him. If somebody kicked my dogs for whatever reason they'd get leathered.

Kick the owner by all means, but you can't kick a dog it doesn't know any better.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
As long as you missed it and stayed upright you did ok.
I might have parked up and given the bloke a bollocking or kicked the dog or both


Wow, accidents happen. The guy has probably walked the dog several times a day, every day for years and may have only dropped it once.

I'm sure as a biker or road user you will have made mistakes far more often.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You forgotten to take your anti-psychotics today sweetheart?


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I agree with him. If somebody kicked my dogs for whatever reason they'd get leathered.
Kick the owner by all means, but you can't kick a dog it doesn't know any better


I don't agree with anyone kicking any living thing, certainly not a dog. I also don't agree with swearing your mouth off at people. That's what I was referring to. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You reacted and did well but beyond that initial "holy shit" moment and bringing it up in casual conversation later, I would not of thought twice about this.

Not being able to avoid an object in the road (no matter what) kinda defeats the purpose of having a brain. Might as well let robots start driving for us.

But anyways, I vote the best comment of the day is:

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You can fuck off as well.

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PostPosted: 18:42 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Dog ran out in front of me ... Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
I don't agree with anyone kicking any living thing, certainly not a dog.


And yet you think

turningCircle wrote:
would I have been better just ploughing over the dog?


Is far more acceptable?

Contradictory little shit.

turningCircle wrote:
I also don't agree with swearing


oops....

Laughing Well aren't you the precious one? They're words used to emphasise a point, or simply to be fucking used. Oh look, the nasty man swore at you again Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
I also don't agree with swearing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQmk6gGTcE

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PostPosted: 18:46 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:
I also don't agree with swearing your mouth off at people.


I don't agree with people telling others that they don't agree with swearing...
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:56 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:


A decent sized rabbit will quite efficiently have most people off a bike, especially when cornering.


I once ran over a rabbit on a bike, had no time to swerve before I realised it was there and barely noticed running over it.
(Which makes me think that if I can run over a rabbit on a bicycle with 19mm tyres that it's probably not going to affect a 100+kg machine!!! - made a right mess on the bike and my face though)
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job for avoiding the dog OP.

pdg you on your period? Thumbs Up Laughing

I think OP was probably making the point that in that split second he chose the dog's safety over his own.

HURR DURR hitting a dog will send you off anyway! But what about that truck on the opposite side of the road you weren't looking at or aware of because you were busy swerving out the way of a dog?

In hindsight you could've got fucked harder by swerving and losing control/crashing into someone/thing or slipping on that ice, but you didn't so consider it a dodged bullet.

Would I have hit the dog in your situation? How the fuck should I know, it's never happened before, closest I've come to is squirrels/foxes on straight roads at night. You lot saying you would avoid the dog (moar fucking hero talk) are chatting bollocks cause in emergency situations you can't predict wtf the outcome will be with any degree of accuracy.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
what about that truck on the opposite side of the road you weren't looking at or aware of


Well, that would be Darwin being proved right yet again wouldn't it? If you aren't aware of a fucking truck coming towards you from a damn good distance then - erm - poor obs and tough shit.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:

Well, that would be Darwin being proved right yet again wouldn't it? If you aren't aware of a fucking truck coming towards you from a damn good distance then - erm - poor obs and tough shit.


Check the paint diagram, assuming there's oncoming traffic, look at that bend and tell me how you're supposed to immediately register the dog, the oncoming traffic, and the kerb, and then decide to swerve towards the kerb avoiding the dog instead of the oncoming lane when you're already leaned over to the left?

Instinct would have you straighten up and move away from the dog, you could very well end up on the oncoming lane in this instance.

I can agree on tough shit.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Dog ran out in front of me ... Reply with quote

turningCircle wrote:


Breaking at this point would have been difficult due to the ice and I was given almost no time to react as the man / dog were right around the corner.


So you were going round the corner too fast on an icy road and were not in a position to be able to stop in the distance you can see?

I personally would have stopped. Told the dog off, then told its owner off too.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
tell me how you're supposed to immediately register the dog, the oncoming traffic, and the kerb


I live in the country, there is a lot to deal with out here.

For instance, a few weeks ago I was turning right at a very tight junction onto a fairly narrow road, on my left is a river (no barrier, just a kerb then a 3ft drop), coming towards me is a tractor - all of a sudden about 4 million pigeons jumped out of the hedge (across from the river) and while yelling "WE'RE GOING TO RAPE YOU IN THE FACE AND THROW YOU IN THE RIVER" they flew straight at my head. I think they may have been carrying axes and sledgehammers as well.

I avoided all of the hazards and carried on home where I had a nice cup of tea - no thread was made to ask what other people would have done in that situation because hey, shit happens.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 20 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:

I live in the country, there is a lot to deal with out here.

For instance, a few weeks ago I was turning right at a very tight junction onto a fairly narrow road, on my left is a river (no barrier, just a kerb then a 3ft drop), coming towards me is a tractor - all of a sudden about 4 million pigeons jumped out of the hedge (across from the river) and while yelling "WE'RE GOING TO RAPE YOU IN THE FACE AND THROW YOU IN THE RIVER" they flew straight at my head. I think they may have been carrying axes and sledgehammers as well.

I avoided all of the hazards and carried on home where I had a nice cup of tea - no thread was made to ask what other people would have done in that situation because hey, shit happens.


Don't see how you could have had a better outcome given the circumstances, the only thing you could do that was in your control was be going slower ..... but you can't dawdle everywhere at walking pace just in case *insert thing happens*.

All you can do is take reasonable care and hope that others do too.

I might have said something to the dog owner in much the same way as i have said something to those idiot parents who use their prams as feeler gauges at junctions.
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