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PostPosted: 17:34 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Recommend for me a shotgun de-activator, if you please Reply with quote

Some sort of olde-worlde side-by-side 12 bore needing welded up to 4/1000", or whatever it takes to convince Dibble to not send in the McSWAT team.

There's a gun shoppe up the road that I'll try tomorrow, but anyone who's had this done is welcome to expound on the experience.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff a cork in each barrel. That way if anyone does try to fire it all the bang will be kept inside.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I did for a mate once...
Remove firing pins and drill out the holes as wide as you can.
Cut down each side of the breach so it would rupture if fired.
Mig weld an old nut halfway down the breach in each barrel.

If plod complains invite him to give it to a Police Armourer to re-activate. £100 quid bet to make it interesting.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bodyguard is good with a welder, sure he can help
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any deactivation work will need proofing by the Birmingham proof house ( I think its that one). An RFD should be able to advise. If you don't get it proofed then in the eyes of the law it's still a shotgun regardless of what work you've done to it.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are the guns? They may not need deactivation if classed as antique.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like this ?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3053637-157510fc80d9df52.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Stuff a cork in each barrel. That way if anyone does try to fire it all the bang will be kept inside.

what an absolutely ridiculous thing to suggest, didn't you ever watch tom and gerry? everyone knows the bang will back fire and take your hair off!!
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speak to your closest Registered Firearms Dealer who should be able to do the necessary for his Borginess.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joncrete Cungle wrote:
Speak to your closest Registered Firearms Dealer who should be able to do the necessary for his Borginess.

"Asking for a friend."

Mmm, I'll call in at Gunne Shoppe, probably not something on which to trust intardtubes wisdom.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dooo eeeeeeeet!
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this so i t doesn't accidentally go off during bank withdrawals
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rockhopper wrote:
Any deactivation work will need proofing by the Birmingham proof house ( I think its that one).


Or the London proof house.

Should be done by a registered firearms dealer then approved and marked by the proof house. May be more expense and grief than it is worth. I reckon you will end up paying £150 plus for getting it done.

Specs for deactivation are here if you want to read:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117802/deactivation-of-firearms-2010.pdf
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to buy an old gun that doesn't need a licence look here :-
https://www.micksguns.com/

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PostPosted: 10:44 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:

Cheers, fellah. That's the ticket. It does seem like a passel-o-hassle, and no mistake. Sad

It occurs that it might just be cheaper to get a SGC... Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
It occurs that it might just be cheaper to get a SGC... Thinking


That's definitely worth considering. SGC (when I last had one) wasn't too difficult to get. Benefits are that you don't irreversibly alter what I assume to be a perfectly serviceable gun, and you can get out and use it if you want.

EDIT: looks like fees to grant a SGC in Scottyland is £50, then lets say a little 3 gun cabinet for £70 - £120 all up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:


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Reading those regs, I can't believe anyone out there would try to "re-activate" at de-activated firearm. It would be far easier to just build from scratch.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Reading those regs, I can't believe anyone out there would try to "re-activate" at de-activated firearm. It would be far easier to just build from scratch.


That's the idea though, it's supposed to be irreversible.

Personally I don't like the idea of FUBARing a serviceable, or repairable gun. I would rather get it repaired and use it or let somebody with the appropriate licence have it.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are different specs for deactivation depending on when the work was originally done. Early deacts are usually fully stripable and will cock and dry fire. More recent ones are usually almost fully welded up (in the case of automatic weapons).
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 26 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:22 - 27 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Same, if you find yourself in possession of a firearm (relative dies or whatever), can you ask a RFD to come collect it and hold it whilst you find someone with the appropriate license who can collect it?


Sounds right, and I'm sure this has been the case on many occasions where people have been left with something.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 27 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:

Personally I don't like the idea of FUBARing a serviceable, or repairable gun. I would rather get it repaired and use it or let somebody with the appropriate licence have it.


I've got a deac AK (well type 56-1) that I was given. It's genuinely depressing when you strip it and see the butchery inside to deactivate it.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Matt B wrote:

Personally I don't like the idea of FUBARing a serviceable, or repairable gun. I would rather get it repaired and use it or let somebody with the appropriate licence have it.


I've got a deac AK (well type 56-1) that I was given. It's genuinely depressing when you strip it and see the butchery inside to deactivate it.


Doesn't mean you can't smack someone round the head with it.

If your going to have a deactivated gun get something interesting a shotgun is a bit boring surely?

Here's a list of dealers. Some of the guns you can get are bonkers, Bren gun anybody? 😁

https://www.mydeactivatedguns.co.uk/shops.php
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
a shotgun is a bit boring surely?


Depends what you term boring really.

I think a side by side, engraved sidelock, with a nice walnut stock can be a stunning thing to look at, and far from boring.

https://www.westleyrichards.com/images/1984pic.jpg

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PostPosted: 20:14 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:
a shotgun is a bit boring surely?


Depends what you term boring really.

I think a side by side, engraved sidelock, with a nice walnut stock can be a stunning thing to look at, and far from boring.

https://www.westleyrichards.com/images/1984pic.jpg

Military weapons don't float my boat - I had enough of them when I was serving.


True enough with something like that. Genuine antique obsolete bore firearms are probably licence exempt I think.
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