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I'd be a bit careful when coming to the end of an average speed section. If I were a traffic copper out to hit my totally non-existent targets, that's where I'd set up shop. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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When the A23 had cameras I was never quite sure which direction they were facing - the northbound side did look like they were pointing straight at you in the southbound lane. Possible they could see both?
Remember reading that someone was caught after repeatedly speeding the opposing direction of a normal camera, identified by his combination of bike and clothing.. so I wouldn't take the piss too much  |
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| staffy50 wrote: | Think with out admission of guilt its purely circumstantial? And that is the same of any front facing camera. |
No, just the old GATSO cameras.
Truvelo is front facing, SPECS and the other ANPRs can be front or rear.
GATSOs can be set to flash on approaching traffic, but the readings can't be used to prosecute. However, if the local Dibble have solved every real crime, track you down, and you're daft enough to blub and admit it...
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2011/february/feb1611-speeding-biker-fingered-/
https://metro.co.uk/2011/02/16/speeding-biker-paul-collins-who-made-obscene-gesture-at-speed-camera-fined-639217/
Granted, that could be a Truvelo picture. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Hmm, okay "not me but someone I know" has gone past Truvelo cameras above the speed limit and has heard nothing.
My point is, while they have the picture of the bike speeding (if it can even ping bikes) there is no proof of whos/who it is. If they then find footage from another angle down the road showing the bike, rider and number plate, then its circumstantial, as you can say, while the does look a little like me, with the same bike, leathers and helmet going through the camera, it is in fact, not.
That then leaves it to the police or whoever does the fines to prove it is you, and not someone else similarly dressed on a similar bike. ____________________ Daytona 675R Road - 5EB R6 Track sold
15:58:19 Ste: your spelling it worse than a retards.
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| staffy50 wrote: |
Nope, you have misunderstood. Its up to them to prove its you in the speeding photograph, with out the registration, as that is just a picture of a bike and rider.
As I said above, if they have pictures of your bike and reg after the fact, then it's just circumstantial that it could of been that bike and rider they saw speeding. There is no proof that it was the same bike that was speeding. |
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/speed.jpg
I have completed some high quality art to help explain. You go past the speed camera, which see's you from the front speeding, then you go past the junction, and past the cctv camera that picks up your reg.
The clever police get the cctv footage and trying to bring a fine against you, however, and this was my question/point. Its possible that you turned left, stoped or whatever, and another similar/identicle bike went past, which then has recived the fine. Hense why i think the whole thing wouldnt work unless you admit to it. ____________________ Daytona 675R Road - 5EB R6 Track sold
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Moral of the story is, never open your door for vampires, TV licensing, or coppers. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I've never heard of anyone that's been prosecuted for the average speed cameras, bike or car.
As you bomb through them, you can almost hear the people in the cars....."Oooohh.....he's going to be in trouble"  ____________________ Space Is Deep |
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That's the spirit.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
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