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'Spose not. Mind you that article could be right. The mini-cab driver who took me from the station to collect my bike was very peculiar-looking.
Maybe a beheading could have done him a favour, in that respect. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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So was the one who took me to my mates wedding there recently.
Plus he and his nasty ass Proton stank of fags too.
What are the odds of that? 2 cab drivers, both asian, same city.  ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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It's funny, but not hilarious funny in the flesh. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Oh no Matt.
What we need is a new crusade. God told me so last night. He said to lead the forces of Christianity in an overwhelming assault on the infidel and rid the world of this stain on civilisation.
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| Polarbear wrote: | Oh no Matt.
What we need is a new crusade. God told me so last night. He said to lead the forces of Christianity in an overwhelming assault on the infidel and rid the world of this stain on civilisation.
Signed Richard I, (reincarnated). |
Sounds almost like George Bush
| George Bush wrote: | "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did." |
| Quote: | Mr Bush and Tony Blair were reported to have prayed together in 2002 at his ranch at Crawford, Texas - the summit at which the invasion of Iraq was agreed in principle. Mr Blair has consistently refused to admit or deny the claim. |
| Quote: | President Bush reads the Bible every day, prays in the Oval Office and frequently inserts religious references into his speeches. |
Those bloody religious, extremist, terrorists eh; can't stop em  |
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| -Matt- wrote: | And now ISIS, who actually aren't even much of a formidable force. |
I think they're more of a force than some realise... Rather than a bunch of the usual bombing around on the back of a pick up truck, they have their hands on some serious weaponry....
https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/weapons-of-isis.asp
Western estimates of 31,500 fighters could also be way short, considering the many fronts they seem to be able to fight at once. Figures closer to 200,000 are being suggested.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/war-with-isis-islamic-militants-have-army-of-200000-claims-kurdish-leader-9863418.html ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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The figures of an ISIS army (military force) of 200,000, and Western estimates of 31,500 fighters are possibly not off the mark and are possibly relative.
It depends on the interpretation of army and fighters and their relationships.
Statistical information will vary depending on many operational and tactical parameters, but, as a broad guide:
An army may have approx 36% logistics, 24% HQ/Admin.
Then there is the ratio of support troops to front line combatants, anything between 4 & 7:1 being postulated in the article below.
Depending on the analysis data used, the figure of 31,500 fighters (if deemed front line combatants) could be a realistic assessment, given that the fighters will undoubtedly require logistics and admin support etc. (Donkeys and mules excluded)
If indeed there are 31,500 fighters, then a formidable foe\force.
https://en.allexperts.com/q/Military-Policy-Weapons-346/2009/9/Support-Troop-Combat-Troop.htm |
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That's all well and good, but if I'm bitten by a Muslim, how long do I have before I turn? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| mpd72 wrote: | I think they're more of a force than some realise... | Even taking the higher end estimates of 200,000 and ignoring the points delsol made that a large proportion of those aren't actually 'fighters' (let alone equipped or trained to fight effectively as a full force) - 200,000 'soldiers', with no air support and a relatively small amount of heavy armour and other vehicles is not in anyway a formidable force in the region. They have no reliable supply lines for new vehicles either; they're simply nicking what they can along the way. The only reason they're a 'formidable' force in Iraq and have had any success is theres very little left of what once was a functional (albeit not particularly human-rights friendly) Iraq; its military included.
If you think they're a formidable force in terms of taking over more of the Middle East - have a look at two of the neighbours to their new 'caliphate' who they will need to expand through.
Iran - with over 2.5 million active/reserve military personal, billions of dollars in military budget, thousands of armoured vehicles and hundreds of jets.
Saudi - one of the richest countries in the world with an equally well equipped military.
Not to mention both Iran and Saudi have the capability and finances to dramatically increase their reserve forces with properly trained and equipped people and an easily accessible supply to global arms suppliers.
Do you think 200,000 'fighters' pose any realistic threat to them ? Small Iranian milita's alone have made advances against ISIS recently, without the need for any proper military intervention . The only reason ISIS is having such 'success' in some areas is theres simply no military left to defend, or the locals have been so terrified by all the propaganda being published in the media that they've put up no resistence/fled.
As for 'fighting on many fronts', their 'tactics' so far have simply been to rush into poorly defended cities, terrorise the locals, make a bee line across the desert for the next place and continue on. They aren't properly fortifying or securing supply lines along the way in many cases, hence they've been knocked back from various places they've captured already. Most of their 'territory' in Iraq isn't even inhabitated.
Dangerous to be around and rather unpleasent people they might be; formidable fighting force they are not  |
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An army you can't see is an army to take seriously - how many more of these 'not previously known to security services' attackers are out there .....
Of course if the West hadn't been busy selling guns to just about anyone it could .... which of course is how it knows just how big the problem is.
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Terrorists: exactly as deadly as hornets, bees and wasps. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Think alot of the plots get stopped before you hear about it. Wouldn’t be surprised that the details never get released as the intelligence is either too sensitive, or illegal. ____________________ Daytona 675R Road - 5EB R6 Track sold
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It's not too late to sign up for the winning team. |
Indeed.
It's signing out of it again that they take exception to.
Most specifically in Afghanistan, Brunei, Mauritania, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Where they'll variously hang, behead or stone you to death for it. Women may be excused beheading in favour of solitary confinement with beatings every three days until they change their mind.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 286 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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