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PostPosted: 23:03 - 29 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 05:35 - 30 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had altberg clubman classics for just over 3 years now. They are properly waterproof and reasonably breatheable. They're very strong. I've dropped a bike on them twice and caught my foot inderneath both times. I got knocked off the bike in the summer of 2014, and had a massive bruise on the part of my leg between the top of my boot and my knee armour. My waterproof overtrousers were cut through, leather trousers had a cut that went almost through from the top of my boot to the top of my knee. Boots had a slight scratch.

Heavier and bulkier than sporty boots, but discreet enough to wear under jeans and the sole has enough tread to manage a muddy field. I find them a pain getting them around the gearshift of a 125, but didnt have to adjust any of the properly big bikes ive ridden.

Yes they look a bit dated. They certainly arent high-fashion gay, or studded enough for judas priest fans though. Possibly a hint of bacon-walt and/or leather daddy about them.

Altberg dont make them any more, replaced by the more modern looking bahn rider. The Clubman Roadster and microlite survive from the old range, the newer roadrunner looking like it belongs in this millenium.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 30 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any boots you like plus Sealskinz

I got a pair of these a few Christmas' ago and rode with them in a regular pair of spidi. Properly waterproof socks (although they feel a bit odd to wear)
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 30 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a pair of alpinestars web goretex for three or four years. Not one drop of water has ever made it through.

Soles are wearing thin and the velcro is showing some age but still 100% waterproof. I'd buy them again next time.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 01 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Depends how strict you are on them being "bike" boots.

Gore-Tex lined army surplus boots, £30 delivered.

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Thisisa good suggestion.

I have these, round around Europe and used them almost daily for 2 years on/off the bike. You can stand in a puddle up to your ankles and not get wet (I've tried, can confirm) and they're comfy enough for walking around in. I've used them for hiking and they did very well.

Unfortunately, I came off the bike at around 30mph and took off some leather at the tip, so they're no longer waterproof. I'll be picking up another pair soon.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 01 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cadbury wrote:
Any boots you like plus Sealskinz

I got a pair of these a few Christmas' ago and rode with them in a regular pair of spidi. Properly waterproof socks (although they feel a bit odd to wear)

+1! I got one pair of sealskinz as a present and was so pleased with them I bought another pair off ebay to wear while the first pair dry out. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 01 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a pair of Alpinestar SMX-6's, owned them for over a year now and they've been used every day since owning them. Still holding up well and have never let water in. Great boots & look decent too imo.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 02 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Depends how strict you are on them being "bike" boots.

Gore-Tex lined army surplus boots, £30 delivered.

Mine are now 5 years old and have been worn very nearly every day, on and off the bike, in all weathers, including slogging ankle deep through a highland peat bog in a lashing gale. They are now close to wearing through the soles, but have never let in a single drop of water[*].

You can pay 6 times as much to add some ankle support but I would be astonished if you'll find anything more waterproof.

[*] Barring one freak incident where I jetted a deep puddle right up inside my elasticated trouser cuff and it bounced back down inside the boot.


This x100. I've got two pairs and they are solid, waterproof and comfortable. I've had two offs in them and they've been fine. Been through some torrential rain and many puddles but remained bone dry throughout. They don't look like Julian Clairy's hand-me-downs either as most bike boots do nowadays.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 02 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cadbury wrote:
Any boots you like plus Sealskinz


Are they the same as the 'waterproof socks' on the bay of E?
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 02 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My £30 Aldi boots have been fine, not the most stylish I know.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 02 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpineandy wrote:
Cadbury wrote:
Any boots you like plus Sealskinz


Are they the same as the 'waterproof socks' on the bay of E?


Same as, probably not. Lookalike rip off, probably.

Original Sealskinz are properly waterproof and breathable, waterproof socks on fleabay - who knows? You may find some MOD surplus ones cheaper.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 02 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried Sealskinz for pedal cycling in the wet.

They do work and your feet will come out dry. However, you're still wearing cold, wet, squidgy socks and it feels like your feet are damp, so the actual comfort factor isn't brilliant.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 05 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I tried Sealskinz for pedal cycling in the wet.

So would a thin pair of socks underneath help?
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 05 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use sealskinz on the pushbike - but usually with at least trainer socks underneath, or going up to merino wools socks in winter. Properly layered, they will keep your feet warm and dry as long as your waterproofs stop water going down the top. I've ridden in horrible conditions for days on end and come out with dry feet, when others have had soggy, puffy, sore feet.

However, wet boots/shoes will still make you cold, and potentially take days to dry out and go horribly smelly in the process - so with sealskinz on the inside I'd wear overshoes on the outside too (and actually did do this with my leaky Black Rains until I got the Alt-Bergs).
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PostPosted: 04:03 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So those of you that actually use the surplus boots which ones do you recommend.

There are so many. Para boots, pro boots, haix (brown) boots.

How comfortable are these wearing all day at work.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

drbaig wrote:
So those of you that actually use the surplus boots which ones do you recommend.

I don't use any of the fancy stuff, just the basic generic (Goretex lined) squaddie boot.


drbaig wrote:
How comfortable are these wearing all day at work.

Fine. I'm not going to say they're magic orthopaedic wünderbooten, but they're made to be worn all day. I don't wear anything else.

I mean, on my feet, I do quite often wear other clothes.
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 24 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I don't use any of the fancy stuff, just the basic generic (Goretex lined) squaddie boot. Fine. I'm not going to say they're magic orthopaedic wünderbooten, but they're made to be worn all day. I don't wear anything else.

I mean, on my feet, I do quite often wear other clothes.


Yeah, I was just wondering what are the common ones people are using since there seems to be so much choice. Plus there is also rumour of the sole disintegrating on some of these boots.

So I was considering the following.

The altbergs defender (anfibio leather) satra tested, the haix bchl (goretex) with mesh panels, and the good old (goretex) pro boots.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 24 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Choice of altberg or anything else, choose altberg.

Of course altberg make exceptional motorcycle boots as well.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 24 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

drbaig wrote:
The altbergs defender


Water resistant though, not waterproof. Check the Altberg website and the spec is clear, backed up by the fact that they are designed to wear Sealskinz with.

If you want proper waterproof, go with Goretex.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 24 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

drbaig wrote:
Plus there is also rumour of the sole disintegrating on some of these boots.

They're made to a budget for the poor bloody infantry, but mine have held up to 5 years of daily riding and walking. The tread has just about gone on the left boot (I seem to be a bit gimpy), but at £6 a year I don't really have grounds for complaint.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'be been reading up on the trusty pro boots crumbling (arrse) as they apparently have a shelf life of 5 years.

https://youtu.be/Hw9AnUAnXlo?t=509
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 27 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

drbaig wrote:
So those of you that actually use the surplus boots which ones do you recommend.

There are so many. Para boots, pro boots, haix (brown) boots.

How comfortable are these wearing all day at work.


Traffic light. Laces. Pegs. Shift or rear brake lever. I rest my case.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 27 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laces aren't a problem if you learn how to tie them and don't leave big loops. It really isn't difficult, and in my experience far more reliable than zips.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 27 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
drbaig wrote:
So those of you that actually use the surplus boots which ones do you recommend.

There are so many. Para boots, pro boots, haix (brown) boots.

How comfortable are these wearing all day at work.


Traffic light. Laces. Pegs. Shift or rear brake lever. I rest my case.


Honestly I've never had a problem with laces. I have rode the bike for 3 years now with laces on various shoes. Although they are never long enough to get caught anyway.

My only concern was the wear on the left boot from the gear shifter. I got some Haix bchl gore-tex ones to test anyway. They are only 35 pounds. Time will tell.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 28 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't wear the infantry boots on the bike (Aldi (or Lidl, whichever) for me there in winter), but I do wear them a lot in the chillier months as normal footwear. They're comfortable enough to walk in, are plenty arm enough and are indeed waterproof to the top. The only downside is they're a faff to get on and off.
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