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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Lets not talk about the economy lets talk about sugar. Reply with quote

Clever move George, bung in a sugar tax and sit back and relax as the media fill air time with shite about sugary drinks instead of reporting on the rest of the budget.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuck the sugar tax, this new savings isa has got my interest.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
fuck the sugar tax, this new savings isa has got my interest.


Bloody government is ageist. want to stick a few thousand in one of those but I'm too old Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old, if you are fat you are thick, lazy and a drain on society, anorexics must be the new Gods of this society. I lost 9 stone last year so I deserve a pay rise and free something or other. Bring back the Window Tax and the salt tax.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
The old, if you are fat you are thick, lazy and a drain on society, anorexics must be the new Gods of this society. I lost 9 stone last year so I deserve a pay rise and free something or other. Bring back the Window Tax and the salt tax.


Didn't you see the free unlimited pies thread?
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure we'll do away with the Sugar Tax once we've won the war on porkers.

If we're taxing anything that's bad for you, wouldn't that include comfy chairs and religious spellbooks?
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I'm sure we'll do away with the Sugar Tax once we've won the war on porkers.

If we're taxing anything that's bad for you, wouldn't that include comfy chairs and religious spellbooks?


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PostPosted: 22:51 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a fairly light touch budget to me, more of the same with a few economies due to reduced global growth.


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PostPosted: 23:25 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
this new savings isa


It seems to be a subsidy for rich people tbh.

There was also a suggestion that the lifetime ISA is a ruse to bring forward tax from retirement monies.

But trusting the government to hold onto your money for decades? When they can change the rules at a whim and apply them retroactively? No thanks.


There seems to be something about the least 3 rule in regards to buy to let mortgage interest relief. It seems to have spooked 118 and property tribes massively as rather than 20% relief they may get 0% relief.

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PostPosted: 00:06 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:


But trusting the government to hold onto your money for decades?




Surely if your going for long term theres already government bonds? not that I understand what a bond is really.
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
J4mes wrote:
fuck the sugar tax, this new savings isa has got my interest.


Bloody government is ageist. want to stick a few thousand in one of those but I'm too old Evil or Very Mad


But I bet you dont complain about buying a house your house for 40k and having it worth 250k today! I guess if you sell your house to the state for the price of your first house and then buy your current house back at current market rates we could let you have this ISA and the similar ones. No deal?
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PostPosted: 02:17 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:


But I bet you dont complain about buying a house your house for 40k and having it worth 250k today! I guess if you sell your house to the state for the price of your first house and then buy your current house back at current market rates we could let you have this ISA and the similar ones. No deal?


I'm old, not stupid. :lol

Anyway, it's for pensions as well as buying a house so why should people over 40 be barred?

I don't really see what good this will do unless you are on a good wage though. If you put £4000 in the government will put another thousand. Isn't this assist to buy under another banner?
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Man wrote:
Fuel duty will be frozen again in 2017-17, saving the typical motorist £75 a year.

I love how not robbing us any harder is phrased as putting money in our pockets. Rolling Eyes

Bit of a "meh" budget, although the threshold raises are are welcome relief from the beatings. I wonder where they're going to claw it back though?

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PostPosted: 10:02 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
fuck the sugar tax, this new savings isa has got my interest.

As an under-40 homeowner I'll have to lend my money to the government for over 20 years to get my 25%.

Under the mattress it goes.

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No, it's a subsidy for young people. Only applies to under 40's apparently, nothing to do with wealth.

Having 4k spare at the end of the year is something to do with wealth.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't remember where I saw it now but I read that one thing Osborne is doing is making public spending incredibly high in certain areas, I think infrastructure and certain pet projects, so then in the last year or two before the next election he can spend far, far less on those things so he'll appear to have cooked balanced the books as promised. Then the next election comes around and that spending has to be slapped back on so once again the deficit exists.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
angryjonny wrote:
Having 4k spare at the end of the year is something to do with wealth.


It starts from £50 a month. Most lifelong doleys spend more than that on Sky subscriptions a month and probably 3 times that on fags and booze.

It's a question of priorities and responsibility.

If you're going to lock your money up for 20+ years then each £50 per month you pitch into this scheme has to be £50 you're pretty damn sure you're not going to need to spend on mortgage payments or car repairs or school uniforms in the next couple of decades. That's a level of security that only comes with wealth.

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Spending more than necessary then bringing the spending back to normal will not "balance the books" will it.

In the eyes of Joe Public who doesn't know the difference between deficit and debt, it will absolutely appear to.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with that line of thought is that cannabis isn't a physically addictive substance.

People only claim to be addicted because in court it counts as a mitigating factor and judges buy into it.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugar tax, not bothered.

What did bother me though was the self-serving media whore Jamie Oliver jumping on the bandwagon, getting interviewed outside the Houses of Parliament and using it as free marketing whilst claiming it as some kind of personal moral victory. Feckin twat that he is, the guy is turning into the food equivalent of Mary Whitehouse.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
What did bother me though was the self-serving media whore Jamie Oliver jumping on the bandwagon

To be fair, I understand that it is his bandwagon. Osborne only jumped on board to keep his Mumsnet devotees, uh, sweet. Thinking of the children, you see.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 17 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
A lot of addictions are mental not physical. Once little Tyler has slipped into spending his entire waking hours munching bacon sandwiches, the prospect of trying to function in society without being bacon sandwiches would be a scary prospect.

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