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Val
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 11 May 2016    Post subject: track decent newbie 1 or 2 pieces leather suits Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have booked my first track day in June with MSV on Brands Hatch. Apparently I am gonna need leathers.

I am looking at these 3 suits:

Alpinestars Motegi - I think this one will have the best ventilation, I may be wrong. Scratch that read awful things about A*.

Dainese Racing, plus its Dainese, its CE2 certified, minus can't remove and wash the liner:

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/212894

Furygan FRS Prime, I have crashed in Furygan textiles and I have a lot of trust in the brand:

https://www.jtsbikerclothing.com/motorcycle_clothing/clothing/mens_clothing/1-piece_leathers/furygan_frs-prime_1_piece_leather_race_suit/red/

Am I missing some other nice beginner track 1 piece suit that will be cheaper and/or have better comfort and protection?

Any advice is appreciated.

Note doing the full lenght zip on my textiles is a major PITA also my thinking is if I go for leathers 1 piece will safe my novice ass better than 2 piece. I may be wrong Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 11 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should consider rst suits have served me very well on track, 3 offs this year racing from Highsides to a 50mph tucking the front few small scuffs on them now but stood up great.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 11 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

...in url = bad.
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Az
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 12 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

robertw95 wrote:
Should consider rst suits have served me very well


I've got RST leather bottoms and they've faded on the inside of the knee area pretty badly. It's put me off getting a jacket to suit as I'm assuming it's not good quality for it to discolour this quick (owned them just over a year). Maybe this is normal? I don't know enough about leather to say really, but I'm guessing it's not.

https://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy178/AzAndBikes/59F6B5D2-E6BB-447C-A85B-63F93D40D18D_zpsyxypjqyr.jpg

As a result I'm considering new leathers rather than a jacket to zip into my current RST bottoms, as I need a 2pc or 1pc suit for track when ever I get back out again (borrowed my brothers spare leathers last time) so will be watching this thread with interest.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 12 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a two piece rst leather suit and a furygan leather jacket. The furygan leather jacket cost the same as the rst 2 piece (£300). The furygan is far far better quality.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 12 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go and try all your choices on and decide from there on the basis of what fits you best. Different brands of one piece suits can have very different cuts and fit. You might find Dianese are too skinny in the leg or Alpinestars cut into your crotch too much.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 13 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That discolouration is pretty strange mines don't look that bad after a few slides into the gravel trap, noy sure what would cause that.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 13 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Az wrote:


I've got RST leather bottoms and they've faded on the inside of the knee area pretty badly. It's put me off getting a jacket to suit as I'm assuming it's not good quality for it to discolour this quick (owned them just over a year). Maybe this is normal? I don't know enough about leather to say really, but I'm guessing it's not.


Do you have tank grips/stomp grips?
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 13 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeybiker wrote:
I've got a two piece rst leather suit and a furygan leather jacket. The furygan leather jacket cost the same as the rst 2 piece (£300). The furygan is far far better quality.


and so it should be at that price !!! ..


.. i have both 1 & 2pc rst ..
the 1pc is better suited for your race replica ..
2pc for uprights / unfaired

well thats what i use them for anyway..
and no wear marks either.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 13 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. DaveJPS wrote:
Az wrote:


I've got RST leather bottoms and they've faded on the inside of the knee area pretty badly. It's put me off getting a jacket to suit as I'm assuming it's not good quality for it to discolour this quick (owned them just over a year). Maybe this is normal? I don't know enough about leather to say really, but I'm guessing it's not.


Do you have tank grips/stomp grips?


I do indeed, I've got the black Eazi-Grip's. I'm guessing you think it's the grips that have caused the fade on my leathers? Which is feasible when I think about it.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 13 May 2016    Post subject: Re: track decent newbie 1 or 2 pieces leather suits Reply with quote

Your links seem to have suffered being copied from another forum.

Were it me, I'd go secondhand.

In the past when racing, I've got three sets, then got the best two sets altered to fit.

Spent a total of £450 or so which got me two sets of made to measure leathers and a spare set which was a bit baggy.

Last two sets I've bought have been local and I've got to look first - both cheap.
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Val
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 13 May 2016    Post subject: Re: track decent newbie 1 or 2 pieces leather suits Reply with quote

G wrote:
Your links seem to have suffered being copied from another forum.

Were it me, I'd go secondhand.

In the past when racing, I've got three sets, then got the best two sets altered to fit.

Spent a total of £450 or so which got me two sets of made to measure leathers and a spare set which was a bit baggy.

Last two sets I've bought have been local and I've got to look first - both cheap.


Thank you G. I am looking at ebay now.

Question about armor. Most 1 piece suits come without chest or back protector. Does that mean you guys wear protective vests?

Is this Forcefield any good: https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/product/forcefield-pro-vest-xv-2016/6163
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Az wrote:

I do indeed, I've got the black Eazi-Grip's. I'm guessing you think it's the grips that have caused the fade on my leathers? Which is feasible when I think about it.


Yes that's what I was suspecting. From talking to people at the few track-days I've done, Stompgrimps are notorious for damaging leathers at the knees.

Val wrote:
Most 1 piece suits come without chest or back protector. Does that mean you guys wear protective vests?

Is this Forcefield any good: https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/product/forcefield-pro-vest-xv-2016/6163


I just use a back protector (forcefield) and it's far better than the alpinestars ones I tried as it warms up with you and becomes more flexible Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for forcefield, payed about £100 new last year I'd say it's definitely already payed for it's self
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Re: track decent newbie 1 or 2 pieces leather suits Reply with quote

Val wrote:

Question about armor. Most 1 piece suits come without chest or back protector. Does that mean you guys wear protective vests?

Is this Forcefield any good: https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/product/forcefield-pro-vest-xv-2016/6163

Not that often for vests. Many do wear aftermarket back protectors.
Most leathers do come with back Armour of some kind.
There's some question over which type is better on track - where there's a lot less road furniture, square curbs and so on.
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