Caught with no restrictors

[NathanY94]

Hi guys,

I was pulled by a police officer for going a bit too fast... While in the process of him questioning me he noticed i was on the A2 licence and asked if my bike was restricted, i replied Yes but i have no paperwork.
After a long roasting from the officer he impounded my bike for driving inacordance to my licence and invalid insurance because he didn't believe me that the bike had restrictors in it. I have now been summoned to court and am being charged for driving inacordance to my licence and invalid insurance.

Is there anything i can do? I don't believe the bike was dyno'd whilst it was impounded as i collected it 3 days later.

This is my first dealing with the law really other than a speeding offence so i am clueless as to what i may actually end up with in terms of being banned or revoked if i do end up being charged. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[Pete.]

Should have just said "Yes it is" and nothing more. If he demanded a cert you should have said that you would produce it at the station. Bit late now.

They DO sometimes dyno them to check, whether they did yours or not is something you won't find out until you get to court. If the cop was lazy or mistakenly thought that you need a certificate for proof he might rely on that fact alone.

You have the bike back now, I would get it to a dyno and prove it's restricted. Bring the dyno sheet to the court and go not guilty. Get it done before you put ANY miles on the clock and have the dyno guy record the mileage. Hope the cops didn't do that. Even if he did you might still cast enough doubt to get a 'not proved'.
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[Ichy]

You knowingly broke the law and got caught out, that's the risk you take. Man up and take it on the chin.

Ban plus a big fine, anything else is a bonus. Insurance will not want to touch you with a barge pole once convicted.

One minute you mention being summoned the next you're not sure if you'll be charged. Which is it?
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[NathanY94]

[Keir]

in 3 days there is no way that police had the bike dyno'd or examined. go to court, get all disclosure documents and plead not guilty.
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[Ichy]

[Pjay]

As above, get it restricted and tested asap.
Take evidence to court and produce to the court.
Would be nice if the evidence could be doctored to have the date look like it was done some time ago.

BTW this has happened before and the police involved saw the forum chat.
Luckily for the person involved then, his bike was restricted.

Try not to be specific about info, just get it restricted and tested.

But in all fairness, you were caught bang to rights, that'll learn ya. Take him away.

[Pjay]

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[Ichy]

[NathanY94]

I knew i was fucked, i just wanted to know if there was anything that could be done regarding their lack of evidence

Thanks for the helpful and not replies though. I just have to learn from my own stupidity

[Ste]

What bike was it and what were they specifically wanting as proof of restriction?

[Pjay]

If they are charging you, they need some evidence.

A bikes new paper spec is not evidence of its current HP output.

That is arguable in court.

[Pete.]

[NathanY94]

[Pjay]

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/Tizrstrictd.jpg

[Ste]

So you asked for a piece of paper to write "I confirm that my blandit has restrictors fitted"?

[andyscooter]

Guessing now you have sold said bike you are more fucked then before

They may not be able to prove you were not restricted anymore then you can prove you are so your word against theirs
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[Pete.]

[Pete.]

[cjttchris]

[The Artist]

Go to court.

Admit nothing.

If they have no proof that the bike is over 33bhp then refute the argument.

If they did dyno it, there isn't anything you can do.

[Commuter_Tim]

[Dave70]

As above really.If they haven't tested it, I'd presume they have no evidence and you'll be okay, as long as you admit to nothing. If they have tested it, you're up sh!t creek without a paddle.

Hopefully, it's the former.

Good luck and keep us posted as to how you get on.
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[stevo as b4]

Thing is with all this get a valid dyno chart print out, what would the un disputed number on the sheet need to say?

33bhp at the rear wheel on a chain drive bike could be say circa 15% more at the crank, and a dyno reading from the gearbox output shaft would give a different number again.